New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

[Spider-Dan]

Very nice update...I'm curious to see how items with Refresh will be treated at lower levels

They will be treated as though they don't have refresh, as the notes clearly stated.

I'm most interested in seeing what happens to:

1) items with hidden/latent effects (e.g. Blau Dolch, Sirocco, Senj)
2) items with ostensibly-canceled negative effects (e.g. Hecatomb, +attack earrings)
3) relic weapons/WS
4) status ammo
5) base stat enhancements (the notes do NOT mention what will happen to STR/DEX/INT/VIT/AGI/MND/CHR)

[Priran]

If it's not one of those, you lose it completely. Period. "Occasionally attacks twice" falls under that, so does Refresh, Haste, Fast Cast, and "Strangely aroused by Galka.".

explains why sept hates this update

[Odesseiron]

Good lord, as has been said about 100 times already.. the reading comprehension in this AWFUL. I read this once at 7 this morning and got everything it said. *shrug* Maybe people are just reading it too quickly?

Anyway I think the changes are awesome. I find it amazing people still find stuff to complain about though. I guess it's too be expected. Oh well. I guess we'll see how much better it gets finding an xp party after this system is implemented. Camps might get a little over crowded again sure. But that's better than having no camps because there's only 2 jobs seeking at any given time. I doubt people will want to merit on 4-5k hr crawlers when they can get 20-30k xp/hr on birds/mamools.

[Seraph]

I suddenly want to merit PLD in the dunes, naked, except for a Homam Hat. Such a high concentration of idiocy in one place has to be a good time...


(Riot Shield not suck at lower levels? Hmmm. I wonder what happens to Latent Effects...

Edit: Latent effects pertaining to DMG, DEF, HP, MP, Status Effects, Accuracy+, Attack+, Ranged Accuracy+, Ranged Attack+, Magic Accuracy+, and Magic Attack+. I read the damn notes, work with me...)

[Siralin]

I can't wait to see the reaction of some subjob-less newbie the first time they get to party with a fully geared 75 job in the dunes. I know if it happened back when I was new, I'd be in fucking awe.

[Odesseiron]

-edit

mistake~!

[Mizango]

Fuck yes, no more of this shit:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...ElvaanMale.png
(replace with orange-haired Elvaan)

in level capped stuff.

QQ

[Kyreth]

Good lord, as has been said about 100 times already.. the reading comprehension in this AWFUL. I read this once at 7 this morning and got everything it said. *shrug* Maybe people are just reading it too quickly?

Anyway I think the changes are awesome. I find it amazing people still find stuff to complain about though. I guess it's too be expected. Oh well. I guess we'll see how much better it gets finding an xp party after this system is implemented. Camps might get a little over crowded again sure. But that's better than having no camps because there's only 2 jobs seeking at any given time. I doubt people will want to merit on 4-5k hr crawlers when they can get 20-30k xp/hr on birds/mamools.

On the other hand, when greater colibri are camped to the nines, those lesser colibri look mighty tempting. Heck, they don't even mimic spells. And when a 50-60ish PT can't get those, lower-level camps are an option again, and so on down the line.

[Eticket]

Nice. I can level with some friends and work on my (non-merit friendly) buffers at the same time.

I'll probably hold on to most of my capped gear for other jobs I want to level but it's nice to know I won't be screwed by forgetting capped gear in my MH.

[Corrderio]

/facepalm

When your are level sync'd.. You. Will. Be. That. Level. So no access to those multi hits ws's and whatever else, because your skill level will be based on your current capped sync level in the party.

They ment multi hit weapons like Joyeuse, Ridill, M.Kris, etc.

And I seriously doubt they'll keep their multi hit stats when under level sync.

[Kyreth]

I can't wait to see the reaction of some subjob-less newbie the first time they get to party with a fully geared 75 job in the dunes. I know if it happened back when I was new, I'd be in fucking awe.

For some jobs, it's made of awesome. Hello, I can level my Corsair by syncing into a lower-level PT and use that cheap L22 ammo effectively instead of the bleed-my-wallet-dry steel (or even iron). Or skip expensive gear levels the same way- use those L24-L29 +1 armor sets I've had handy and just stick to synced PTs for a while until I'm high enough to be past them, then skill up later on to catch up. Ditto for all those jobs you level to 37- hit a point where it's good to be in parties, and just sync your way up to whatever passes the dead zone.

And best of all, we're going to see the lulz of a character hitting 75...in a newbie zone, off killing a monster he could normally sneeze at. So, how well does a L10 capped Summoner doing Astral Flow do for mass-killing, anyway?

[Odesseiron]

They ment multi hit weapons like Joyeuse, Ridill, M.Kris, etc.

And I seriously doubt they'll keep their multi hit stats when under level sync.

Apparently I fail at reading comprehension! I could have sworn I saw "skill" at the end of that! Haha. Edited

I am sure you are right as well. That would be way overpowered at lower levels even if there was a heavy damage reduction

[kuronosan]

Okay, it is still a wasted effort. It's an effort to do away with the most frustrating part of the game - grinding a job to 75 so you can use it end-game. Yes, this heavily improves the system. Yes, it is a good idea.

Sorry, I still think the implementation is poor.

Why are people making a case about being able to equip gear for the jobs? If anyone would really rather wear their AF with watered down stats over some of the gear available at lower levels, I fear for this game. The major thing to take away from this update is the ability to party on any job you want to and get experience at any time with any party. Who gives a shit if you can equip your Homam Cosciales if the effect is extremely minimal?

I swear. SE could piss rainbows on your legs and you'd think the game came out yesterday.

[Tricen]

Very nice update...I'm curious to see how items with Refresh will be treated at lower levels

Prolly like haste. Not there at all Q_____________Q

[Aksannyi]

This. Is. Fucking. Win.

[Hyan]

Okay, it is still a wasted effort. It's an effort to do away with the most frustrating part of the game - grinding a job to 75 so you can use it end-game. Yes, this heavily improves the system. Yes, it is a good idea.

Sorry, I still think the implementation is poor.

Why are people making a case about being able to equip gear for the jobs? If anyone would really rather wear their AF with watered down stats over some of the gear available at lower levels, I fear for this game. The major thing to take away from this update is the ability to party on any job you want to and get experience at any time with any party. Who gives a shit if you can equip your Homam Cosciales if the effect is extremely minimal?

I swear. SE could piss rainbows on your legs and you'd think the game came out yesterday.

I don't think this update will change the GRIND in any noticeable way, it will just make it easier for everyone to do that grind (no need to wait for party for so damn long you're too tired to exp once that party invite comes your way). I also don't think the main reason for this update is that level 75's can exp with lvl10's, the main thing imo is that those lvl20's and lvl25~30's can now level together without gimping each other's exp.

[Ashira]

Why are people making a case about being able to equip gear for the jobs? If anyone would really rather wear their AF with watered down stats over some of the gear available at lower levels, I fear for this game. The major thing to take away from this update is the ability to party on any job you want to and get experience at any time with any party. Who gives a shit if you can equip your Homam Cosciales if the effect is extremely minimal?

Have you read... anything people have said? A big benefit of gear being capped down is because now it's much easier to help with level capped missions and such; I think for the most part, for those seriously considering EXPing regularly capped, it's been said that buying some pieces at the appropriate level will definitely be better. More of it is trying surmise how much things will be capped, etc, and like, thank god we don't have to fuss with earrings/capes etc as much really.

[Isiolia]

Why are people making a case about being able to equip gear for the jobs? If anyone would really rather wear their AF with watered down stats over some of the gear available at lower levels, I fear for this game. The major thing to take away from this update is the ability to party on any job you want to and get experience at any time with any party. Who gives a shit if you can equip your Homam Cosciales if the effect is extremely minimal?

It's quite relevant because very few people would want to keep capped gear around on the off chance that they'd want to participate in a sync'ed party.

I'd say a lot of the success of this, outside of the potential abuses mentioned, hinges on a Rare/EX laden 75 not having complete crap for gear after the pieces are adjusted for level. If it turns out you need to go buy half a set of capped gear anyway, then the appeal is vastly diminished.

'course, for some things, you won't be naked, and that'd be enough.

[Seraph]

Have you read... anything people have said? A big benefit of gear being capped down is because now it's much easier to help with level capped missions and such; I think for the most part, for those seriously considering EXPing regularly capped, it's been said that buying some pieces at the appropriate level will definitely be better. More of it is trying surmise how much things will be capped, etc, and like, thank god we don't have to fuss with earrings/capes etc as much really.

Even if you have to be gimp at lower levels now, at least it can LOOK good.

[Kenai]

That's pretty amazing. I can see potential for abuse, but the positives definitely outweigh the negatives imo. I just hope they are more serious about class balancing and such in the future or they just erased a lot of jobs hopes of getting a party ever (and I am probably not talking about the jobs you are thinking of, some jobs are MUCH better at lower levels than higher levels...)