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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by frodnonnag View Post
    god damn it, i can't scale to level 1 for a bubbly bernie fight wearing endgame gear.
    just reading this ruined any fucking excitement i may have had for this update

    fuck you se i want my epic crab battle

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pergo View Post
    for them to actually go through and evaluate each item and scale each item to several levels... that must've taken alot of time and effort, which is something that i wouldn't expect.

    this should be a great way for pld to get merits, considering theres a huge demand for tanks at every level except 75

    oh and /toss worthless mandragora beret
    Oh fuck me man. I just finished RDM, aka the most boring job EVER in xp parties for meriting and NOW they make PLD sexy sauce?

  3. #63
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    Relics will probably still be superior to any other options for their level. I imagine they'll scale down the added effects (and WS effects), but keep the triple damage proc and such, since it'll be more balanced considering the base weapon damage would be scaled down. I wanna see how Aegis is when level capped, though.

    OR, SE could be completely nubby and get rid of all those "other effects" on relics, and make them have no triple damage proc, added effects, or anything.

  4. #64
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    ok welllllll at level 55! sorry its been awhile

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiggidySchwah View Post
    just reading this ruined any fucking excitement i may have had for this update

    fuck you se i want my epic crab battle
    scale down to 20 for epic cargo crab colin battle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    scale down to 20 for epic cargo crab colin battle?
    cargo crab colin is the gambu of crabs

    pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waef View Post
    Relics will probably still be superior to any other options for their level. I imagine they'll scale down the added effects (and WS effects), but keep the triple damage proc and such, since it'll be more balanced considering the base weapon damage would be scaled down. I wanna see how Aegis is when level capped, though.

    OR, SE could be completely nubby and get rid of all those "other effects" on relics, and make them have no triple damage proc, added effects, or anything.
    Since the WS is like an added effect on the weapon I would assume you couldn't use it ;/.

  8. #68
    WASTE OF CURRENCY
    I CAN'T I CAN'T I CAN'T

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    Hmmmm, how to use this to exploit relics? TO THE LABORATORY!

  9. #69
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    Relics will still probably have the highest DPS (and Aegis will be the best shield) no matter the level.

    Dunno 'bout Gjallarhorn, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square-Enix
    Hey kids!

    Sick of getting merits with competent people who have good gear? Yearn for the days of 2k an hour XP parties in Valkurm Dunes?

    From the people who gave you "Level Capped Zones" comes "Self-Inflicted Level Caps"

    Take all of that shiny fancy gear and merits that allows you to get 10-20k an hour and nerf it on down so that you only get 2-4k an hour! Go back to those tragic XP death traps that you used to go to and fight over mobs with 20 other parties!

    With Self-Inflicted Level Caps you get to combine the horror of CoP missions with the travesty of low-level XP!
    While the being able to wear non-level capped gear in level capped zones/missions is nice, nerfing the stats on them is utterly moronic and completely removes the point of wearing said gear. (Since most gear before the late 50s has utter crap for stats.) This is going to be about as useful as getting merits in level capped zones.

  11. #71
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    Izzy can now DD in low level parties on whm too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    While the being able to wear non-level capped gear in level capped zones/missions is nice, nerfing the stats on them is utterly moronic and completely removes the point of wearing said gear. (Since most gear before the late 50s has utter crap for stats.) This is going to be about as useful as getting merits in level capped zones.
    Right, so, not having to mule tons of gear for capped events is stupid? No.
    Helping friends / LS to level up, and actually gain something out of it is stupid? No.

    BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  13. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    if they remove haste, then maybe they'll remove the slow on scaled down hecatomb? that would be sweet
    Oh god yes!

    Edit:
    This is actually a pretty good update for the way traditional pt's worked. Now you can flatten the levels so that the one person 2 levels above everyone else doesn't ruin exp when he levels. Also, even though you can invite a 75 to your qufim pt (and get shot down) you could also just look a few levels higher and probably get a 'yes' since the exp/hr doesn't jump that much between lower level camps. All in all, I love this.

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    I wonder, do you think the weapons/armor will actually display their new stats, or will it just be a "hidden" change, where it's scaled down but if you examine the person the weapon/armor will still show as level 75?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waef View Post
    I wonder, do you think the weapons/armor will actually display their new stats, or will it just be a "hidden" change, where it's scaled down but if you examine the person the weapon/armor will still show as level 75?
    yeah, maybe itll show up red, and greyed out like POL.

  16. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics.../3599/3599.jpg

    The FFXI development team is proud to announce the "Level Sync" system, a revolutionary new feature in the upcoming version update that will allow all players—grizzled veterans and novices alike—to adventure and gain experience together regardless of level differences!
    I hate to break it to SE, but this system isn't as "revolutionary" as they'd like it to be. EQ2 has had this system in place from day one. There it's called "mentoring". There are a few differences. One difference is it's on a person by person basis not full party basis. And also there is an XP adjustment. The mentor takes a XP hit, while the mentoree gets a slight bonus. Finally, the spell/JAs you have access to are the same, but like your armor, they are scaled down.

    But at the same time, this will make leveling so much nicer. I'm guessing that our spell line up will also be adjusted for that level. If so, pre-raise level is still gonna suck just as bad as it does now w/out a PL standing there, if for no other reason than wipe duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waef View Post
    I wonder, do you think the weapons/armor will actually display their new stats, or will it just be a "hidden" change, where it's scaled down but if you examine the person the weapon/armor will still show as level 75?
    Might have red text or something over the old stats like in salvage and give a new value. That might be giving too much credit to se though after everything thats coming in this update.

    Edit- someone beat me to it ~.~

  18. #78
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    A new issue is going to develop:

    /sea all RDM

    and people scrolling down the list until you find someone willing to lower themselves to whatever level you're at. It might not be so bad at the 50s when you're killing Lesser Colibri, but the early 30s to late 40s aren't exactly the most fun of levels.

    Still, it's a welcomed addition.

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    very nice. i was expecting the level sync system but not the equipment thing.

    now to make friends with lv60 SMNs...

  20. #80
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    Seems i am the only one who really dislikes this.... its going to make some items jump to unreasonable prices and make others worthless. This will completely ruin crafting, period. Not to mention now the thrill of getting 75 will be lost to the non hnmls people.

    What i am curious about is if u downscale with a 75 job to you retain the merits? would seem hella broken to me lol. But hey can make 9k/hr in 7 man ptys now easy! behe domian my new xp spot lol, dont you all take it over >.>

    oh shit maze makers we are comming for j00! (my solo spots dead now)

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