New Slipknot CD

[TacoTaru]

I think this is a perspective thing in which, I assume, you and the other guy are referring to bigger bands with sold out stadiums and 2hrs sets nightly, while touring for months straight. I'm more referring to smaller bands, doing the same type of touring, small venues with 30-45min sets max. With the latter at least there are plenty of ways you can help take care of your throat that require zero vocal training and still allow you to do the same thing for years and years with the same sound and quality you had before. I also think the difference in ideas about what music is about is differing between us. I think the voice preservation stems on the fact that you mean you can keep your voice up to par, to keep making albums which in turns makes them more money; whereas I see it as three years of everything you got, making real music, is more fulfilling than dick riding major labels and preserving your voice to produce radio friendly, mainstream [genre] just for the sake of making money.

[shinoniken]

I don't think it's all that bad, but I was also expecting this, seeing as in interviews cory often speaks of them incorporating his vocals into the music more. It's certainly not very classic slipknot, but I'd just say it's different, not bad.
Edit: they also said the title of the album "All Hope is Gone" is a reference to how there is no hope in predicting their style of music, so that was a major hint as to it being very different.

[Fhloston]

I'm liking this album so far, there's about 2 or 3 songs that weren't all that great, but mostly pretty good stuff here. Downloaded the extra 3 tracks on iTunes also, the Vermilion Bloodstone Mix is ok, the other 2 tracks were pretty good though.

[Pikarya]

Just listened to the full track, its alright. I guess. =/

edit: also listened to the extra tracks that came with the cd, also meh.

[Gadritan]

It's hard to be angry when you're making millions and millions of dollars every year. This is just a repeat of Mulletallica....er...Metallica*

And TacoTaru, I used to think anyone could scream...till my band had to go through about 20 singer's auditioning. No. Not everyone can do it. Screaming does no good if you either sound like a dying cow, or you can't scream again for a week while your voice recovers. And it's not a matter of preserving your voice to go maintstream etc etc. You preserve it so you can continue to preform as you have been. So you can continue to produce that scream that is unique to you...for years. 3 years all out would be satisfying? Yeah, I suppose. If you just really don't give a shit about doing what you love for the rest of your life.

This just sounds like the typical bitching through ignorance that's repeated every day by those who have little to no experience in the music industry, let alone as a musician themselves. Yet they feel that they already know how it all works.

The fact that you want to make the separation between what you deem as "hardcore" vs metal says enough really. I've spent years listening to ppl sub categorizing music to somehow make what they listen to special. It's not. Screaming for a metal band, or screaming for a "hardcore" band, is, yes, still screaming. If you honestly believe there's a difference in the two, you'll never understand it. But what would I know...

[TacoTaru]

The fact you seem to have an overly pompous attitude about music says enough for me. If you "really" think there is no distinction between hardcore and metal listen to Minor Threat and Judas Priest, or SSDecontrol and Black Sabbath and then come back and tell me how they're so much the same, and how I'm just tagging a label for the hell of it. The fact that you can say hardcore and metal are the same in turn shows your own ignorance of music history, and current bands in each genre today. Listen to any of Ceremony, Trash Talk, Outbreak, Some Girls or Give Up The Ghost and then compare it what you listen to.

Educate yourself.

[Ivaden]

Didn't read the thread too much, but I was never much of a fan of Slipknot except for a select few songs, and only when I was already pumped up or whatever for various reasons. I like this album, though, personally.