Stone Gorget - Solo Advice Needed

[Airenn]

First, has anyone done this? Has anyone soloed MR's as a RDM/NIN?


Second, here's what I am thinking of trying to do.

To obtain Stone Gorget you must go to Promvyion-Dem and get to Floor 2, possibly 3, and fight the Satiator NM.

He drops an item that needs to be taken to Promvyion-Vahzl to pop another NM.

NOTE: This is only covering the Promvyion-Dem portion as I haven't even thought as far ahead as getting the drop from the Satiator NM.

Basically, RDM/NIN --

For the memory receptacle, Bio/Poison and Ranged Attacks. Bringing RA for the Strays.

For the NM, well...

Hopefully Bind/Grav/Bio/Poison cover it with some like nukes in between.

This is how much free time I get at work:

-Stone Gorget
-Spells at hand
-Dia
-Cure I, II, III
-Stone, Water, Aero, Fire, Blizzard, Thunder
-Paralyze, Blind, Slow, Silence, Bind, Gravity
-Bio
-Poison
-Protect II, Shell I
-Regen
-Blink
-Utsusemi: Ichi
-Katon, Hyoton, Huton, Doton, Raiton, Suiton: Ichi
-Tonko: Ichi
-Items to bring
-RR Earring
-Echo Drops
-Remedies
-Holy Waters
-Antidotes
-RR Scroll
-Warp Scroll
-Cream Puffs
-Wizard Cookies
-Yagudo Drinks
-Potions
-Ethers
-Gear at hands
-Head
-Blissful Chapeau lvl. 20 Enchantment: Recover MP, <30/30 0:30/[10:00, 0:30]>
-Empress Hairpin lvl. 25 HP -15, Dexterity +3, Agility +3, Evasion +10
-Shade Tiara +1 lvl. 30 Evasion +1, Empty Killer
-Eldritch Horn lvl. 30 HP -4, MP +12, Enchantment: INT +3 MND +3, <50/50 0:30/[30:00, 0:30]>
-Body
-Healing Vest lvl. 30 Enchantment: Recover HP , <30/30 0:30/[10:00, 0:30]>
-Shade Harness +1 lvl. 25 Evasion +1, Empty Killer
-Hands
-Aiming Gloves lvl. 30 Enchantment: Ranged Accuracy +3 , <50/50 0:30/[30:00, 0:30]>
-Savage Gauntlets lvl. 27 MP +16, Vitality +4, Mind +2
-Devotee's +1 lvl. 27 MP +9, Intelligence -3, Mind +6
-Shade Mitts +1 lvl. 25 Evasion +1, Empty Killer
-Legs
-Shade Tights +1 lvl. 25 Evasion +1, Empty Killer
-Barons Slops lvl. 20 MP Recovered While Healing +1
-Republic Sub. lvl. 25 Vitality +1, Attack +5, Ranged Attack +5

-Feet
-Savage Gaiters lvl. 29 HP +16, Strength +3, Charisma +2
-Shade Legs +1 lvl. 25 Evasion +1, Empty Killer
-Ranged
-Wrapped Bow +1 lvl. 24 Ranged Accuracy +3 Delay 351, DMG 20*
-Federation Bow lvl. 15 Ranged Attack +3 Delay 340, DMG 14
-Ammo
-Horn Arrow lvl. 29 Ranged Accuracy +5 Delay 90, DMG 17
-Moriom Tathlum lvl. 25 MP +3, Intelligence +1
-Neck
-Holy Phial lvl. 26 MP +9, Mind +3
-Black Necker. lvl. 20 Intelligence +1
-Feather Neck +1 lvl. 7 Ranged Accuracy +2
-Earring
-Morion Earring lvl. 30 MP +4, Intelligence +1 (+1's better)
-Ring
-Shikaree Ring lvl. 30 Accuracy +2, Ranged Accuracy +2
-Bowyer Ring lvl. 29 Ranged Accuracy +3, Ranged Attack +3
-Beetle Ring +1 lvl. 21 Accuracy -3, Ranged Accuracy +4
-Saintly Ring +1 lvl. 10 Mind +3
-Int. Ring +1 lvl. 10 Intelligence +3
-Astral Ring lvl. 10 Convert HP to MP +25
-Back
-Nomad's Mantle lvl. 24 Agility +1, Evasion +3 (+1 Better)
-Waist
-Mec. Cpt. Belt lvl. 30 DEX +1, VIT +1, AGI +1, INT +1, MND +1, CHR +1
-Mohbwa Sash +1 lvl. 20 MP +12 MP Recovered While Healing +2


I am going to try a Kite-DoT-Nuke fight for him. Praying that his elemental is Stone, Water, or Light. (Possible Sleep? )

I am trying to take everything into account - No refresh, SS, convert.

Bringing all types of status ailments, though I think I only need Remedies for Paralyze.

My only worry is Fission and it spawning a baby. Which, I have no idea how I will handle until I see what Satiator is weak to and what not. I am hoping Fission is a TP ability.

There's not much other information on this NM or the quest.



Notes: No, I don't have all that gear. I'm going to be choosing between what all my mules have and what I can afford. It's just a list of the best level capped stuff for RDM.

[solsovly]

You took all the time to list out equipment(not really useful) but forgot the most important one when soloing in Promy, your NPC.

[Airenn]

You took all the time to list out equipment(not really useful) but forgot the most important one when soloing in Promy, your NPC.

Yea, I should probably get one of those, shouldn't I?

[Niiro]

Wouldn't BLU sub be better?

[Airenn]

Wouldn't BLU sub be better?

At level 30, I have no idea.

I would also really have no idea since my blue is level 4? ANd that wasn't even me leveling it...

[Kaeko]

There isn't all that much room to kite around the NM area, so just be really careful in planning our kite route if you're doing this.

You can duo this with NPC help quite easily I think.

[Spekkio]

There isn't all that much room to kite around the NM area, so just be really careful in planning our kite route if you're doing this.

You can duo this with NPC help quite easily I think.

what job would you duo on? i assume you'd want healer NPC. how leveled would you need your NPC to be to do this?

[Kaeko]

what job would you duo on? i assume you'd want healer NPC. how leveled would you need your NPC to be to do this?

When I did mine, it was BLU/NIN DNC/NIN RDM/WHM with no NPCs. I assume if you took BLU/NIN DNC/NIN + 2 healer NPCs you'd do great though. I think NPCs start at lvl30, which is the level cap here anyways.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Truth be told, I think you'd be a whole lot better off just meleeing the Memory Receptacles down with a sword, with your back up against a wall. From what I remember, they take a huge reduction from magic damage, and have very little physical damage reduction.

I'm also gonna' have to agree with /BLU probably being a better idea. Ichi isn't much to go on, especially when you lack all of the Haste/FC equipment available at later levels.

[Airenn]

Truth be told, I think you'd be a whole lot better off just meleeing the Memory Receptacles down with a sword, with your back up against a wall. From what I remember, they take a huge reduction from magic damage, and have very little physical damage reduction.

I'm also gonna' have to agree with /BLU probably being a better idea. Ichi isn't much to go on, especially when you lack all of the Haste/FC equipment available at later levels.

I appreciate all the input guys!

Yes, I prepared for the MR's and the magic damage reduction they take. Hence the RA. I just don't want to be on top of it, either... RA could put my back against the zone-wall and still let me attack.

The /nin is mostly for the kite for the NM, not the MR's... As I don't have anything else that would really be a good subjob. I was going to hopefully use Ninja wheel to weaken it to whatever I was about to cast on it next.


I might gear up and just give it all a test run tonight. If it goes horribly, then I'll have a friend come along, level up DNC or BLU, or something.

Also, note to self: Get NPC tonight! Heh.

[Seyrr]

On the gear selection, I recall hearing a claim that Empty Killer from the Shade gear does not stack - you get the same efficacy with one piece that you would with five. I don't recall how credible that claim was though.

[Airenn]

On the gear selection, I recall hearing a claim that Empty Killer from the Shade gear does not stack - you get the same efficacy with one piece that you would with five. I don't recall how credible that claim was though.

I assumed it did... Well, if it doesn't then saves me some money ;p


Anyone else have more info/confirmation on this?

[solsovly]

I used to do the promy enms every week and tried stacking shade and tried wearing just one piece. The proc rate was crappy enough either way that I couldn't really tell the difference from eyeballing.

[Virtuous Saint]

I don't see you soloing that NM, but what I can tell you is it is about 1hr repop exactly probably, it hits hard as fuck, the rare/ex trigger is 100% drop. What I can tell you about the higher one is: I am 2/14-16 on stone gorget from it, so take that as you will, and I had TH.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I appreciate all the input guys!

Yes, I prepared for the MR's and the magic damage reduction they take. Hence the RA. I just don't want to be on top of it, either... RA could put my back against the zone-wall and still let me attack.

The /nin is mostly for the kite for the NM, not the MR's... As I don't have anything else that would really be a good subjob. I was going to hopefully use Ninja wheel to weaken it to whatever I was about to cast on it next.


I might gear up and just give it all a test run tonight. If it goes horribly, then I'll have a friend come along, level up DNC or BLU, or something.

Also, note to self: Get NPC tonight! Heh.

Yeah, but standing far away isn't going to cause you to negate any damage, so you may as well be using the better weapon to damage the MR. >_>

[Airenn]

True Tsuko, thanks for the input.

And christ, VS -- debbie downer much?? Just kidding, I appreciate the ratio.

[Virtuous Saint]

actually that was a mistake I am like 3/15 or so, but as for soloing MR, that is very simple with DoT, and ranged ect, w/e. I soloed one to about 30% on NIN/WAR with no ninjitsu, 1hi pot, and little gear, the way I did that was with the fact that you can deaggro the MR if you run out of range and stay out for long enough, and I had poison katans so once that proced I ran out of range and killed strays so as not to be hit by memory seed. If you do that on RDM with bio/poison it has to be incredibly easy.

[Suiram]

What's a solid setup to kill the Vahzl NM? I have BLU and BLM 50+, and my hope is that with the level-cap gear changing coming I might be able to drag a few people to help me fight it. I actually don't care much for the drops (I'll likely offer gorget to a helper if they want it), just the Promyvion - Vahzl map has been the last map I've needed for years to have them all.

[Bakthi]

I think NPCs start at lvl30, which is the level cap here anyways.

Unless they've changed something, however, you can't change an NPC's combat style "out of the box"; you'll have to exp with it a bit first to gain some bond. I suspect you don't want your NPC provoking whatever you're fighting.

[pchan]

I duo'd the whole stone gorget. For satiator, which is the hardest part, you need to abuse the NPC system. I've tried ninjax2+whm to kill the NM and it's hard, we failed. I've tried pup/nin, dnc/nin, rdm/whm and succeeded (really ..). I've tried dot>nuke method, it fails because the dots last 30seconds and gravity is totally unreliable (the NM is too high level).

The best way for the Satiator NM is 2 NPC+ 2 players. I used my galka fierce attacker and a friend his sooth healer mithra. We were mnk/nin + whm/nin and our 2 npcs and we killed it in 2 minutes, really easy fight. I believe rdm/whm + attacker or tank NPC can take it, but you prolly gotta need lots of mp to cure it. The good thing about NPC, is that you can attempt this once a RL-day, if you don't finish the quest everytime (i ask the npc to leave before the 45 minutes). The second best thing about NPC is that you don't get hate from curing them lol. And of course they hit quite hard.


Now the easy part : killing Provoker. I've tried various setups and strategies. THFx2 whm rdm killed it but that was quite hard. NIN+rdm failed. The NM hits you for 220 ish unbuffed. I tried the "dot > zone into the spire" method. This works fine until some empty mob decides to block your way or gravity decides to resist or other mistakes. The NM runs back to the ??? quickly, and getting him back to the spire on rdm/nin when gravity resisted is hard, especially if you meet an empty otw back. The easiest and non-conventionnal method I found out (takes like 30-45 minutes to kill, maybe 1 hour if poison2 resists too much) is to dot it at its spawn point and die> raise/reraise. Setup is rdm/nin + Thf/whm raising. The NM resists poison2 alot and bio2 dots does shit damage at this level. If bio+poison land, then the NM will lose 5% damage. Repeat until the last few % where the THF will perfect dodge and finish it. The rdm will lose 6k ish xp.

we are 2/4 on stone gorget btw