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    Quote Originally Posted by Muramasa View Post
    You're just assuming. Just because Apocalypse Nigh caps off two expansions, doesn't mean the next one will conclude the last two.
    Except that there's nothing to connect ToAU to WotG...yet.

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    Balrahn gonna come from TOAU in WOTG past and fuck everyone up through some time altering dimension. true story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muramasa View Post
    Balrahn gonna come from TOAU in WOTG past and fuck everyone up through some time altering dimension. true story.
    ToAU relic armor explained!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabbalah View Post
    Except that there's nothing to connect ToAU to WotG...yet.
    None of the expansions in this game would have happened if not for the multinational expedition 30 years ago. Spoiler-a-go-go baby!

    Had Ulrich not attempted to killed Raogrimm who became the Shadowlord, the base game would have never happened.

    Without the Shadowlord contacting the Vhazl mother crystal, the Zilart would have never awaked to try to revive sky.

    Without the Zilart trying to revive sky, the Al'Taieu mother crystal wouldn't have been pulled partially back into our dimension bringing back Bahamut and the Keeper of the Apocalypse, and allowing us to travel to Al'Taieu.

    Had we not gone to Al'Taieu and encountered biomechanical monsters, the Empire would not have been able to use these pieces to build a new type of body for Alexander.

    And of course, without the Crystal War we wouldn't be able to travel back in time to the Crystal War to become our own grandfathers.

    All of the stories are interconnected, in fact, until this expansion, each of the expansions had some sort of connection to the one previous.

    Besides, CoP had two very important chracterers that we never met- the divinity of darkness (who has a shattered proto-crystal in Bearclaw Pinnacle and apparently gave the Shadowlord his demon army) and the iron giant (that the Moblins discovered while searching for the last protocrystal). Once you have the tie-in to CoP, it is easy enough to tie it into the other expansions. (Since the Shadowlord used Mathilde to sing the Lay of the Immortals to shatter the proto-crystal in Bearclaw Pinnacle...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Had Ulrich not attempted to killed Raogrimm who became the Shadowlord, the base game would have never happened.
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    Raogrimm also awakened Odin from his slumber, and was probably a pawn in his scheme to confront with Alexander once more, thus setting the ground for the whole ToAU storyline

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    ...and of course, any tie to Odin and the Shadow Lord, is a tie from ToAU to WoTG that can be expanded upon rather trivially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Besides, CoP had two very important chracterers that we never met- the divinity of darkness (who has a shattered proto-crystal in Bearclaw Pinnacle and apparently gave the Shadowlord his demon army) and the iron giant (that the Moblins discovered while searching for the last protocrystal). Once you have the tie-in to CoP, it is easy enough to tie it into the other expansions. (Since the Shadowlord used Mathilde to sing the Lay of the Immortals to shatter the proto-crystal in Bearclaw Pinnacle...)
    You've met the entities in bold, and the underlined bit is backwards. The Moblins discovered the last Crystal while searching for the Iron Giant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphise View Post
    Apoc nigh was a quest that completely summed up the stories for both CoP and RoZ, being as no expansions have any tie in between them, it would be stupid to have one. I'm going to assume ToAU is completely finished mission wise.
    ToAU isn't finished though. There's still the portal from the end to be dealt with. Which will probably eventually lead to an Alexander Prime fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvaen View Post
    You've met the entities in bold, and the underlined bit is backwards. The Moblins discovered the last Crystal while searching for the Iron Giant.
    Correct. When they found the...oh shi-

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    When they found the statue of Promathia, the moblins gave up their hunt, thinking they had found what they were looking for. Some of them continued looking for the real thing (iirc), I believe those moblins to be the ones in Halvung.

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    i wish they had a better way of choosing a matching headgear for your npc besides which face you chose. wyvern helm looks cool. looking forward to see what they're going to add.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...809_222359.jpg

    people who have 20 stacks of seals better not be the kind that ask, "how did you make money for your relic?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrensan View Post
    i wish they had a better way of choosing a matching headgear for your npc besides which face you chose. wyvern helm looks cool. looking forward to see what they're going to add.
    I think that is the point of adding in head gear the way they did with Chef's Hat and Glasses, now everyone have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Had Ulrich not attempted to killed Raogrimm who became the Shadowlord, the base game would have never happened.
    What Raogrimm must have felt has some parallel to Prince Luzaf I'm guessing.

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    Yup, I'm also wondering if Raogrimm also got an offer to "Sate thy rage"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guppy View Post
    What Raogrimm must have felt has some parallel to Prince Luzaf I'm guessing.

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    Yup, I'm also wondering if Raogrimm also got an offer to "Sate thy rage"?
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    I think Raogrimm's deal was that he would get power in exchange for freeing Odin from the dark protocrystal. Thusly he was not an Avatar for Odin like Luzaf. If Odin was the one who empowered Raogrimm, hopefully we find out in this expansion.

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    Wow.

    In the words of Jane Fonda, "now stretch."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
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    I think Raogrimm's deal was that he would get power in exchange for freeing Odin from the dark protocrystal. Thusly he was not an Avatar for Odin like Luzaf. If Odin was the one who empowered Raogrimm, hopefully we find out in this expansion.
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    I'm pretty sure it was Odin who empowered Raogrimm, it's a solid explanation for the demons and possibly the archetecture. What I really want to know is who created the beastmen. That line back in COP about them being created after Promathia had died still haunts me. Could Odin have orchestrated this entire thing, or maybe it's whatever lies within the Walk of Echoes?

    There's also an ancient San d'Orian legend about their ancient relics given to them by the gods, or something. It mentions two, one is obviously Lightbringer, but what about the other? Maybe it was the 5th Verse? If it weren't for the fact that Aldo's sister, Emelyn was living in Tavnazia, would the beastmen have sieged it?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Had we not gone to Al'Taieu and encountered biomechanical monsters, the Empire would not have been able to use these pieces to build a new type of body for Alexander.
    All the other connections I was aware of, but even after having collected my homam and heard all the blurb, this never once clicked for me. So Obvious too... I feel enlightend

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrensan View Post
    people who have 20 stacks of seals better not be the kind that ask, "how did you make money for your relic?"
    Pft, even with all my seals, I'm not dense enough to believe they'd get me to probably even halfway through stage 3 if luck actually cooperated with me. Even if I somehow scored like 6 KCs at 30m a pop, you can pretty much bet the 2 with me for each drop would want splits. Hell, promise of selling it is the only way I've been able to blow 240 seals on that BC as is.

    If anything, if I could somehow get a bunch of BC runs going, the end result would likely allow me to white border a couple things and otherwise finish up some gear for me lesser played jobs. Maybe a Salvage body on top of that if I decided to put myself through drop rate hell beyond what I already do between Nyzul runs.

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    looks like no teaser for monday

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    Which means the update will be at the ass end of the month. Ungh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pergo View Post
    looks like no teaser for monday
    I wouldn't completely count it out, sometimes they can show up after 7. But I figured our best guess for this week was Tuesday and Thursday. (Best guess or wishful thinking? We will find out some time this week.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    I wouldn't completely count it out, sometimes they can show up after 7. But I figured our best guess for this week was Tuesday and Thursday. (Best guess or wishful thinking? We will find out some time this week.)
    true, although i think ever since aht'urhgan they've been pretty early on their update teasers :-/ ... you're probably right and it's gonna be tues/thurs, and maybe a surprise one on monday for wishful thinking lol

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