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    Looks painful.

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    Mithra Spaking is acceptable to Anonymous...

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    That screenshot is one of the funniest god damn things i've seen in a while.

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    Further details after GM call.

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    Actually same happened some days ago to my GF. An hume naked, with the "?" thing poped on his MH in whitegate. Later on we search for him and found out he was an elvaan lvl75.

    Called GM that was quite annoyed and never heard anything like that before. We all supposed it was a glitch but they would look over it.

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    As someone previously mentioned, this is perfectly normal behavior for a game. Of course, "normal behavior" doesn't mean "intended functionality," but in pretty much every 3D game there is (both old and new), there are certain default scripts and safety measures in place to keep a game from crashing, among other things.

    The hume model is most likely the "default model" for FFXI, and whenever another model doesn't load for one reason or another (e.g., scripting error, corrupt data, out of memory issues), this one is popped in its place. This keeps the game running, and it in of itself is not a glitch, but the conditions which bring about its appearance are issues. It's sort of a red flag which tells a developer that something that was supposed to happen didn't, and it needs to be fixed. Or, sometimes it's just a fart in the code that will never happen again and can't be tracked down/fixed easily, and it's a good thing the default model kept stuff running.

    As for the model appearing within people's Mog Houses, I really doubt it has anything to do with hacking, since moving to your position isn't going to suddenly unlock all of the information on your PC and upload it through FFXI of all things. If FFXI were that compromised, none of us would be playing it anymore.

    It's probably like the Moogles occasionally appearing out in the middle of Jeuno or other weird stuff like that. Oh, and the reason it's not the intended model also has to do with your location, especially in relation to the Mog House stuff.

    You're in a zone that is not supposed to have anything else loaded in outside of your model, the Moogle's, and your furniture, so FFXI is not going to load anything else. For some reason it's reporting that an entity is supposed to be there, but another part of the code is saying no, and that stops the full roster of resources from loading. End result: harmless default model says hello until things fix themselves.

    Most GMs probably would never be able to tell you this as it requires knowledge of how the game itself works, and they don't seem to have that. This doesn't mean you're being hacked or that your FFXI needs to be reinstalled. It's not worth worrying about unless you start to experience real problems, like frequent crashes and such.

    EDIT: To delve a little deeper into this matter, have you ever seen something like this in a video game?

    http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5941/linksr9.jpg

    We all know that's Link, but the specific pose he's in is called a "T Pose," or a "default pose." If you were, say, attacking an enemy and the script that plays his model's animations suddenly decided to break, he may get frozen in a pose exactly like that. He would stop animating completely, but the functionality should still be present (e.g., the enemy you were attacking would still take damage, even though you wouldn't see Link swinging his sword). You could also lose functionality, too, and wind up spinning in place like a top and being unable to do anything at all until you reset.

    Like the "default model" in the discussion above, the T pose is a default state for a model. So, if animations or other things don't load in, then the model itself reverts to that pose. Likewise, if the entire model does not load in at all, the default model (as in the hume above) loads in its place, and should have all of the same functionality, but is not what you're supposed to be seeing. The regular scripts should still run, but they're not being run through the right model, so they may malfunction/cause additional glitches (e.g., forcing the incompatible Mithra animations through a Hume model and causing extreme deformities/model explosions as in the screenshot above).

    Hopefully this helps explain it a bit better.

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    i know these dats are in different places and probably untouched but a similarity i'm noticing is both of the screenshots are using modded text (brandson or whoever does it now)... could that maybe caused some glitching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pergo View Post
    i know these dats are in different places and probably untouched but a similarity i'm noticing is both of the screenshots are using modded text (brandson or whoever does it now)... could that maybe caused some glitching?
    Anything is possible, but I personally doubt it. The whole "default model" thing can happen under a bunch of entirely normal circumstances in a game. Even if they removed their mods and never saw it happen again, that wouldn't mean the issue was "fixed," exactly.

    We had Moogles appearing out in the middle of Jeuno on unmodified copies of FFXI, after all.

    EDIT: Actually, another good example: have any of you seen someone in FFXI running around with their arms pinned to their sides and their weapon stuck beneath their feet? That's kind of like the in-game T pose issue I detailed above. The character's animation script made a boo-boo while running, and for that specific character (or set of characters), it's broken until you zone and give the game the opportunity to reload their assets.

    This is indeed normal stuff, it's not really worth worrying about at all unless truly strange things start to happen, like tons of models never loading in, your game crashing frequently, and so on, so forth.

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