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    Sera should modify her avatar so it has McCain with Sarah Palin on his head. I believe this properly reflects what her purpose was: "I have Sarah Palin on my head; your arguments are invalid".

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    Remind me again of how accurate the news is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I will bring the argument back around to the same point I've been trying to make and I guess you keep forgetting:

    Everyone in Congress can see all the related intelligence to any given subject that concerns them, and more. No one was mislead in the Congress, they were derelict, or complicate.
    Late response kinda, but the following document was released only 3 months ago. Obviously, it relates directly to what Aurik/Churchill were debating.

    http://intelligence.senate.gov/press....cfm?id=298775

    Senate Intelligence Committee Unveils Final Phase II Reports on Prewar Iraq Intelligence

    Excerpt1:

    The Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, and a bipartisan majority of the Committee (10-5), today unveiled the final two sections of its Phase II report on prewar intelligence. The first report details Administration prewar statements that, on numerous occasions, misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq. The second report details inappropriate, sensitive intelligence activities conducted by the DoD’s Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, without the knowledge of the Intelligence Community or the State Department.
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    The Committee’s report cites several conclusions in which the Administration’s public statements were NOT supported by the intelligence. They include:

    Ø Statements and implications by the President and Secretary of State suggesting that Iraq and al-Qa’ida had a partnership, or that Iraq had provided al-Qa’ida with weapons training, were not substantiated by the intelligence.

    Ø Statements by the President and the Vice President indicating that Saddam Hussein was prepared to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorist groups for attacks against the United States were contradicted by available intelligence information.

    Ø Statements by President Bush and Vice President Cheney regarding the postwar situation in Iraq, in terms of the political, security, and economic, did not reflect the concerns and uncertainties expressed in the intelligence products.

    Ø Statements by the President and Vice President prior to the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq’s chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community’s uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing.

    Ø The Secretary of Defense’s statement that the Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information.

    Ø The Intelligence Community did not confirm that Muhammad Atta met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in 2001 as the Vice President repeatedly claimed.
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    Chairman Rockefeller went on to state:

    There is no question we all relied on flawed intelligence. But, there is a fundamental difference between relying on incorrect intelligence and deliberately painting a picture to the American people that you know is not fully accurate.

    These reports represent the final chapter in our oversight of prewar intelligence. They complete the story of mistakes and failures – both by the Intelligence Community and the Administration – in the lead up to the war. Fundamentally, these reports are about transparency and holding our government accountable, and making sure these mistakes never happen again.
    And if you're wondering whether the MSM covered the publication of this report on television, the answer is...

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    In other words, no, they did not.

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    In other news..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b0pSXmT10I

    I'm absolutely disgusted by this ad. YOU BEIN' DISRESPECTFUL OF THE WHITE WIMMENS, NIGGAH.

    Fucking sickening.

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    Jason Bourne had it right. This is like a really bad Disney movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    notice how it's not an invasion per se, but acting on intelligence, which is what Obama has been saying. It's like the GOP is trying to beat Obama to being Obama. Of course Bush managed to fuck it up but hey.


    They been doing that for awhile. It started with Mccain stealing Obama message of Change and Bush announcing Troop withdrawals timetable after years of saying he would not announce such things. They are in panic mode and trying to do anything to stay in power its pathetic really.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ALsjhDDdaA

    It's actually pretty scary the thought of her running the country the more she opens her mouth the more it becomes abundantly clear that she is a deer in headlights. I really hope Biden does not hold back.

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    I don't think Bush even wanted to call it a "timetable." He (and others in the admin.) insisted on labeling it a "time horizen."

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    They call it a horizon cause they love their Orwellian names, and you can never quite reach a horizon can you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401 View Post
    In other news..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b0pSXmT10I

    I'm absolutely disgusted by this ad. YOU BEIN' DISRESPECTFUL OF THE WHITE WIMMENS, NIGGAH.

    Fucking sickening.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401 View Post
    In other news..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b0pSXmT10I

    I'm absolutely disgusted by this ad. YOU BEIN' DISRESPECTFUL OF THE WHITE WIMMENS, NIGGAH.

    Fucking sickening.
    The more the McCain campaign trots out the sexism card, the more I'm convinced Palin was picked solely so the campaign can use it for every criticism of her they can. Noun, verb, YOU DISRESPECTFUL UPPITY SEXIST PIG!!!

    Here, I'll illustrate an example that's perfectly plausible: Palin falsely links Iraq to 9/11 at that deployment rally. If anyone were to suggest to Palin that it isn't true, it can be construed as an attack on her, a mother who's son is deploying to Iraq (to fight for our freedoms and democracy). How can you be so disrespectful to her sacrifice and her son's service? Do you hate mothers? The troops?

    See? It's air tight. And it hits on two fronts! It's the power of running on a narrative and not on issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffins View Post
    The more the McCain campaign trots out the sexism card, the more I'm convinced Palin was picked solely so the campaign can use it for every criticism of her they can.

    I agree. It was a brilliant move on his part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suited Aces View Post
    I agree. It was a brilliant move on his part.
    ...even if it was a cynical move.

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    Kind of funny how the sexism card is ok if you're a conservative, but if you're a liberal woman, you're just being whiny.

    Who was it that said that Hillary was whining too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    Kind of funny how the sexism card is ok if you're a conservative, but if you're a liberal woman, you're just being whiny.

    Who was it that said that Hillary was whining too much?
    The name slips my mind... it began with a P... Pa... Palente?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    Kind of funny how the sexism card is ok if you're a conservative, but if you're a liberal woman, you're just being whiny.

    Who was it that said that Hillary was whining too much?
    Some pig with lipstick.


    What pisses me of the most is that festering cunt rag Palin keeps saying that played out lie of "McCain rather win the war then win the election" when in fact him choosing her is a testament that the line is a total fucking lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    Some pig with lipstick.


    What pisses me of the most is that festering cunt rag Palin keeps saying that played out lie of "McCain rather win the war then win the election" when in fact him choosing her is a testament that the line is a total fucking lie.
    Can't have both at the same time?

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    Just watched the ABC interview, holy shit she's a terrible interviewee. Certainly not as well-spoken as her democratic counterpart.

    I cringed when asked about foreign policy experience she went off on a tangent about energy independence. When pressed on the israel-attacks-iran hypothetical, instead of giving a substantial answer, blandly recited her memorized buzzword "second-guess" each time.

    If she doesn't kick it up a notch, Biden is going to rip her to shreds. They should put that shit on PPV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    Can't have both at the same time?
    Then why not say it the way it really is? Oh thats right its just Nationalistic propoganda garbage aimed at getting the Lunatic fringe out to vote for him. now wait... that just brings me back to my original point doesn't it?

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    Excuse the caps, but...... RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
    HOW DOES THIS BITCH NOT KNOW WHAT THE BUSH DOCTRINE IS?!

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