Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Candidate

[Dantrag]

lol wow.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4479049n

this made my brain hurt... you know you're bored at work when you actually listen to it all.

[Elvis]

Bwahaha

http://www.slate.com/id/2200927/

Slate predicts McCain's next 10 Hail Mary stunts.

1. Returns to Vietnam and jails himself.
2. Offers the post of "vice vice president" to Warren Buffett.
3. Challenges Obama to suspend campaign so they both can go and personally drill for oil offshore.
4. Learns to use computer.
5. Does bombing run over Taliban-controlled tribal areas of Pakistan.
6. Offers to forgo salary, sell one house.
7. Sex-change operation.
8. Suspends campaign until Nov. 4, offers to start being president right now.
9. Sells Alaska to Russia for $700 billion.
10. Pledges to serve only one term. OK, half a term.

And watch this video:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n

Yes it's been posted twice already (once directly above this post) but I think it goes without saying that it's one of the MOST telling aspects of McFail's and the hockey mom's phoniness. Watching her fumble her regurgitated talking point (constructed by her corporate handlers no doubt) is embarassing.

It's sort of like watching a bad episode of Jerry Springer. The sort of episode where you somehow feel bad for the freakshow(s).

[Lampoon]

9. Sells Alaska to Russia for $700 billion.

That's actually not a bad idea.

[Dimmauk]

If its the republicans that are holding their own bailout plan, then why doesnt McCain do anything about it? Maybe he doesnt want the bailout to pass today for some reason.

[Elvis]

Future VP choice :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

Can anyone confirm what i heard? I heard that Republicans rejected the measures because they didn't want something to do with judges and bankruptcy and that they also wanted to lower the capital gains tax. Is this why?

I can't confirm but it would be consistent with what they have been bitching about and I guess ideology.

[Dimmauk]

The debate is on; McCain agrees to participate

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Republican John McCain agreed to attend the first presidential debate Friday night even though Congress doesn't have a bailout deal, reversing an earlier decision to delay the forum until Washington had addressed the financial crisis.

With less than 10 hours until the debate was scheduled to start, the McCain campaign announced that the Arizona senator would travel to the University of Mississippi. The campaign said that afterward McCain would fly back to Washington to continue working on the economic crisis.

The campaign's statement said McCain is optimistic that there has been progress toward a bipartisan agreement. But earlier in the week, McCain said he would delay the debate "until we have taken action to address this crisis."

"He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations," the McCain campaign said in a statement.

It was a different position than McCain had taken Wednesday, when he announced, "I'm directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the Commission on Presidential Debates to delay Friday night's debate until we have taken action to address this crisis."

[Kael]

Bwahaha

http://www.slate.com/id/2200927/

Slate predicts McCain's next 10 Hail Mary stunts.

1. Returns to Vietnam and jails himself.
2. Offers the post of "vice vice president" to Warren Buffett.
3. Challenges Obama to suspend campaign so they both can go and personally drill for oil offshore.
4. Learns to use computer.
5. Does bombing run over Taliban-controlled tribal areas of Pakistan.
6. Offers to forgo salary, sell one house.
7. Sex-change operation.
8. Suspends campaign until Nov. 4, offers to start being president right now.
9. Sells Alaska to Russia for $700 billion.
10. Pledges to serve only one term. OK, half a term.

And watch this video:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n

Yes it's been posted twice already (once directly above this post) but I think it goes without saying that it's one of the MOST telling aspects of McFail's and the hockey mom's phoniness. Watching her fumble her regurgitated talking point (constructed by her corporate handlers no doubt) is embarassing.

It's sort of like watching a bad episode of Jerry Springer. The sort of episode where you somehow feel bad for the freakshow(s).

Holy shit. lol That did not instill much confidence in her ability to run the country if McCain croaks.

That was horrible.

[Beckwin]

Can anyone confirm what i heard? I heard that Republicans rejected the measures because they didn't want something to do with judges and bankruptcy and that they also wanted to lower the capital gains tax. Is this why?

umm, the best I've been able to understand the judges/bankruptcy thing is the Dems wanted to allow certain protections for single-home owners that are given to multiple-home owners when going through bankruptcy, given by judges (somewhat discretionary I guess). GOP balked at this. Also I hadn't heard about them trying to lower the capital gains tax, major lolz.

of course the parallel when applied to the prez race is mccains 7/8/whatever homes versus obama's 1. kinda funny and only adds to the ammo cache of "republicans don't give a shit about the middle class"

[Dimmauk]

WOW.....just WOW.

Spoiler: show

Katie Couric: As we stand before this august building and institution, what do you see as the role of the United States in the world?

Sarah Palin: I see the United States as being a force for good in the world. And as Ronald Reagan used to talk about, America being the beacon of light and hope for those who are seeking democratic values and tolerance and freedom. I see our country being able to represent those things that can be looked to … as that leadership, that light needed across the world.

Couric: In preparing for this conversation, a lot of our viewers … and Internet users wanted to know why you did not get a passport until last year. And they wondered if that indicated a lack of interest and curiosity in the world.

Palin: I'm not one of those who maybe came from a background of, you know, kids who perhaps graduate college and their parents give them a passport and give them a backpack and say go off and travel the world.

No, I've worked all my life. In fact, I usually had two jobs all my life until I had kids. I was not a part of, I guess, that culture. The way that I have understood the world is through education, through books, through mediums that have provided me a lot of perspective on the world.

Couric: Gov. Palin, you've had a very busy week. And you're meeting with many world leaders. You met with President Karzai of Afghanistan. I know the McCain campaign has called for a surge in Afghanistan. But that country is, as you know, dramatically different than Iraq. Why do you believe additional troops, U.S. troops, will solve the problem there?

Palin: Because we can't afford to lose in Afghanistan, as we cannot afford to lose in Iraq, either, these central fronts on the war on terror. And I asked President Karzai, "Is that what you are seeking, also? That strategy that has worked in Iraq that John McCain had pushed for, more troops? A counterinsurgency strategy?" And he said, "yes." And he also showed great appreciation for what America and American troops are providing in his country.

Couric: The United States is deeply unpopular in Pakistan. Do you think the Pakistani government is protecting al Qaeda within its borders?

Palin: I don't believe that new President Zardari has that mission at all. But no, the Pakistani people also, they want freedom. They want democratic values to be allowed in their country, also. They understand the dangers of terrorists having a stronghold in regions of their country, also. And I believe that they, too, want to rid not only their country, but the world, of violent Islamic terrorists.

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Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters.

Couric: Mocked?

Palin: Yeah, mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah.

Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.

Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…

Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?

Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.

Couric: When President Bush ran for office, he opposed nation-building. But he has spent, as you know, much of his presidency promoting democracy around the world. What lessons have you learned from Iraq? And how specifically will you try to spread democracy throughout the world?

Palin: Specifically, we will make every effort possible to help spread democracy for those who desire freedom, independence, tolerance, respect for equality. That is the whole goal here in fighting terrorism also. It's not just to keep the people safe, but to be able to usher in democratic values and ideals around this, around the world.

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?

Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with. You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without preconditions being met. That's beyond naïve. And it's beyond bad judgment.

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger …

Palin: It's dangerous.

Couric: … is naïve for supporting that?

Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's part of diplomacy.

Couric: You recently said three times that you would never, quote, "second guess" Israel if that country decided to attack Iran. Why not?

Palin: We shouldn't second guess Israel's security efforts because we cannot ever afford to send a message that we would allow a second Holocaust, for one. Israel has got to have the opportunity and the ability to protect itself. They are our closest ally in the Mideast. We need them. They need us. And we shouldn't second guess their efforts.

Couric: You don't think the United States is within its rights to express its position to Israel? And if that means second-guessing or discussing an option?

Palin: No, abso … we need to express our rights and our concerns and …

Couric: But you said never second guess them.

Palin: We don't have to second-guess what their efforts would be if they believe … that it is in their country and their allies, including us, all of our best interests to fight against a regime, especially Iran, who would seek to wipe them off the face of the earth. It is obvious to me who the good guys are in this one and who the bad guys are. The bad guys are the ones who say Israel is a stinking corpse and should be wiped off the face of the earth. That's not a good guy who is saying that. Now, one who would seek to protect the good guys in this, the leaders of Israel and her friends, her allies, including the United States, in my world, those are the good guys.


Sarah Palin: My understanding is that Rick Davis recused himself from the dealings of the firm. I don't know how long ago, a year or two ago that he's not benefiting from that. And you know, I was - I would hope that's not the case.

Katie Couric: But he still has a stake in the company so isn't that a conflict of interest?

Palin: Again, my understanding is that he recused himself from the dealings with Freddie and Fannie, any lobbying efforts on his part there. And I would hope that's the case because, as John McCain has been saying, and as I've on a much more local level been also rallying against is the undue influence of lobbyists in public policy decisions being made.

Next, Couric asked about the $700 billion government bailout of bad debt - and whether she supports it.

Palin: I'm all about the position that America is in and that we have to look at a $700 billion bailout. And as Sen. McCain has said unless this nearly trillion dollar bailout is what it may end up to be, unless there are amendments in Paulson's proposal, really I don't believe that Americans are going to support this and we will not support this. The interesting thing in the last couple of days that I have seen is that Americans are waiting to see what John McCain will do on this proposal. They're not waiting to see what Barack Obama is going to do. Is he going to do this and see what way the political wind's blowing? They're waiting to see if John McCain will be able to see these amendments implemented in Paulson's proposal.

Couric: Why do you say that? Why are they waiting for John McCain and not Barack Obama?

Palin: He's got the track record of the leadership qualities and the pragmatism that's needed at a crisis time like this.

Couric: But polls have shown that Sen. Obama has actually gotten a boost as a result of this latest crisis, with more people feeling that he can handle the situation better than John McCain.

Palin: I'm not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who's more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who's actually done it?

Couric: If this doesn't pass, do you think there's a risk of another Great Depression?

Palin: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it's been proposed, has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action - bipartisan effort - Congress not pointing fingers at one another but finding the solution to this, taking action, and being serious about the reforms on Wall Street that are needed.

Couric: Would you support a moratorium on foreclosures to help average Americans keep their homes?

Palin: That's something that John McCain and I have both been discussing - whether that ... is part of the solution or not. You know, it's going to be a multi-faceted solution that has to be found here.

Couric: So you haven't decided whether you'll support it or not?

Palin: I have not.

Couric: What are the pros and cons of it do you think?

Palin: Oh, well, some decisions that have been made poorly should not be rewarded, of course.

Couric: By consumers, you're saying?

Palin: Consumers - and those who were predator lenders also. That's, you know, that has to be considered also. But again, it's got to be a comprehensive, long-term solution found ... for this problem that America is facing today. As I say, we are getting into crisis mode here.

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

[Olo401]

So yeah I'm drafting rules for tonight's Presidential Debate Drinking Game.. here's what I have so far. (Variations of the phrases count):

- If McCain shows up, take a shot and relax your left eye so it's looking downwards. If he doesn't, take two shots and do your best imitation of Ben Stein saying "Bueller... Bueller... Bueller..."

Take a sip/gulp of beer whenever..
- McCain says "my friends", "9/11", "POW", "Russia" or "surge"
- Obama says "hope", "Al Qaeda", "Bin Laden", "Darfur", "Sudan", "Afghanistan" or "Pakistan"
- Either candidate brings up the cold war or Vietnam.

Chug a beer or do a shot whenever...
- McCain says "Bin Laden", "Al Qaeda" "war with Iran", "Afghanistan", "Radical Islam", "leave Iraq with honor", "bring the troops home with honor" or "missile shield"
- Obama says "nuclear proliferation", "South Ossetia" or "Georgia"
- Either candiate brings up expansion of NATO or North Korea.

[Elvis]

It's so fckin grotesque of politicians to keep pushing the 'freedom'/liberty/sunshine agenda after everything that's happened in the past 8 years (let alone the past 70ish).

[Dimmauk]

So yeah I'm drafting rules for tonight's Presidential Debate Drinking Game.. here's what I have so far. (Variations of the phrases count):

- If McCain shows up, take a shot and relax your left eye so it's looking downwards. If he doesn't, take two shots and do your best imitation of Ben Stein saying "Bueller... Bueller... Bueller..."

Take a sip/gulp of beer whenever..
- McCain says "my friends", "9/11", "POW", "Russia" or "surge"
- Obama says "hope", "Al Qaeda", "Bin Laden", "Darfur", "Sudan", "Afghanistan" or "Pakistan"
- Either candidate brings up the cold war or Vietnam.

Chug a beer or do a shot whenever...
- McCain says "Bin Laden", "Al Qaeda" "war with Iran", "Afghanistan", "Radical Islam", "leave Iraq with honor", "bring the troops home with honor" or "missile shield"
- Obama says "nuclear proliferation", "South Ossetia" or "Georgia"
- Either candiate brings up expansion of NATO or North Korea.

If Rudy was debating, this would kill people.

[Olo401]

McCain already has webads up claiming he won tonight's debate (with screenshot evidence)

Maybe I should just start drinking now..

[Lampoon]

Best puppet show ever!

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

I would love to see a side by side comparison of questions asked of Obama and questions asked of Palin.

[Dimmauk]

McCain already has webads up claiming he won tonight's debate (with screenshot evidence)

Maybe I should just start drinking now..

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/f...winsdebate.jpg

[Not Kuno]

McCain wins the election! He's going to become the next president of magical fantasy land!

[Beckwin]

so much for a supsended campaign, eh?

fucking piece of shit lying through his teeth.

[isladar]

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/f...winsdebate.jpg

Shouldn't that read "McCAIN SHOWS UP FOR DEBATE!"?

I mean its practically Christmas, what he's giving the American people. Showing up for a scheduled-months-in-advance debate. What a maverick.