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    Quote Originally Posted by Saphirea View Post
    for him saying he's a real catholic and saying creation is crap...
    Hope Obama isn't hoping to be like kenedy and win the catholic vote
    I don't see any specific shots towards the catholic vote.

    Also, I the catholics I know aren't really creationists (well, not anti-evolution at least, a good deal think in the "god's guiding hand" mentality)

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    I've been in Mexico for the last week, so I'm late to this debate, but here's a quick recap of my opinion:

    *I obviously support Bob Barr, but I would prefer Obama to beat McCain for reasons I've stated in other threads

    *Obama picking Biden actually pushed me towards the McCain side. He is a loud mouthed buffoon who would tax and spend us into oblivion if he got into office. He is the complete opposite of the "new politics" and "change" that Obama preches, thus making Obama a hypocrite.

    *Obama's speech at the campaign pushed me further towards the McCain camp because he was untruthful in his attacks against McCain and he was just showed his inexperience whenever he tried to add in specifics to his ideas.

    *McCain's pick of Palin pushed me back towards the Obama side. She is the traditional Republican neocon; she is absolutely not ready to be President, and probably won't be even given 4 years of on the job training; the pick goes against everything that McCain has stated about the reasons he will pick his VP and it goes against all of his attacks on Obama.

    *Basically, this last week has made me all the more glad that I don't support either candidate, and all the more sad that Dr. Paul didn't win the Republican nomination.

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    I just want to see Paul speak at the RNC

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    Greatest trolling of the RNC soon to come?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pohibaba View Post
    *McCain's pick of Palin pushed me back towards the Obama side. She is the traditional Republican neocon; she is absolutely not ready to be President, and probably won't be even given 4 years of on the job training; the pick goes against everything that McCain has stated about the reasons he will pick his VP and it goes against all of his attacks on Obama.
    If Palin isn't ready then neither is Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    If Palin isn't ready then neither is Obama.
    And ladies and gentlemen we're back to square one.






    Jesus, This is why democracy mainly Congress does not work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    If Palin isn't ready then neither is Obama.
    Education matters.

    In any case, I think both are "ready."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    If Palin isn't ready then neither is Obama.
    Yes, but it's hypocritical for him to claim that Obama isn't ready, bashing him for months, then pick someone with far less experience.

    He is a loud mouthed buffoon who would tax and spend us into oblivion if he got into office. He is the complete opposite of the "new politics" and "change" that Obama preches, thus making Obama a hypocrite.
    You might feel that way, but surrounding yourself with people who only agree with your line of thinking is exactly what turns me off to the republicans. Unique points of view give new perspectives on different situations. If everyone around you is just yes men, or has identical ideals, then it's easy to do what the bush cabinets have done with justifying anything and everything that suites their narrative. Obama doesn't strike me as someone that would let himself become a puppet of the VP. I think he made a choice that wasn't political, and didn't pick him for some clear advantage.

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    You might feel that way, but surrounding yourself with people who only agree with your line of thinking is exactly what turns me off to the republicans.
    This is exactly what Mccain did and people are criticizing him for his choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    This is exactly what Mccain did and people are criticizing him for his choice.
    No, he picked her for political reasons... If you can't see that then you really don't know what you are talking about. He could care less about her experiences or viewpoints. He just wants her to win over the Hillary vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kareface View Post
    No, he picked her for political reasons... If you can't see that then you really don't know what you are talking about. He could care less about her experiences or viewpoints. He just wants her to win over the Hillary vote.
    Of course there are, but people are also questioning his decision based on the fact that she disagrees with Mccain on alot of stuff, yet it's completely fine for Obama to be praised for picking Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    If Palin isn't ready then neither is Obama.
    God, shut the fuck up already. Your the living example on why Republicans are hypocrites.

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    How many stereotypes are tagged to Republicans now? I've heard everything from them hating music to them being hypocrites.

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    Well the hypocrites stereotype i would say is well deserved.

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    Hating music was a joke about someone whining about Obama drawing big crowds because there was a concert playing before he spoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Of course there are, but people are also questioning his decision based on the fact that she disagrees with Mccain on alot of stuff, yet it's completely fine for Obama to be praised for picking Biden.
    Who cares if they are questioning that. That's not the reason he picked her. If you look at the fundamentals of the choice each candidate made, one was purely political, the other one was clearly not. If Obama wanted to make a political decision, he had a clear candidate. He hurt his chances at winning the election to chose someone who benefited his cabinet. Even if you don't agree with his opinions, he makes a strong case in all the debates I've seen him in, and Obama long before the VP selection talked about how he respected him. Biden was a good choice in my opinion. You don't have to like the guy to know he'll be a good leader.

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    Well the hypocrites stereotype i would say is well deserved.
    qft

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    *Basically, this last week has made me all the more glad that I don't support either candidate, and all the more sad that Dr. Paul didn't win the Republican nomination.
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    Aside from the heaps of other shit that happened to Paul during his run, there were a few points that really lost it for him.

    The fact that he can't speak publicly in debate. (Not an intelligence issue...more of an issue of trying to say too much)
    The fact that he said 9/11 was our fault (Which it was)
    The fact that he said Reagan would have supported him, though he would be nothing like Reagan.

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    I've got groundbraking news, it's hypocritical for a democrat to call a republican a hypocrite. Actually, it's more of a sweeping generalization that neither and both deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kareface View Post
    Biden was a good choice in my opinion. You don't have to like the guy to know he'll be a good leader.
    I don't think pathological liars who don't even have the decency to hide the fact that they're lying make good leaders : /

    (I'm referring to his tirade from 1988 when he discussed his incredible academic accolades and was later proven to have been average at best)

    Every politician is a hypocrite, but if we're going to get into that arguement we're just looping back to what was already argued like 15 pages ago.

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