Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Candidate

[Elvis]

The key to this election will be the Hispanic-nocturnal-Muslim vote.

[Demosthenes11]

My sociology professor as well as my political science professor will totally disagree with you. Chances are good that you will retain your parents political views, granted they do change when they are in their teens and old enough to make choices for themselves, but generally speaking kids keep the same main ideology as their parents

oh, good thing we are talking about toddlers then

[Tyche]

It's like religion, you were brought up on those views so for all likelihood you'll continue with those views. It isn't so much parents alone though, but the culture you are raised in. A lot of parents won't discuss politics in public, it's just something about that demograph. They can talk about fucking their wife last night to their buddies, but they won't bring up their political stances. I guess it delves into nature vs nurture, but if you're raised in the south in a large family, good damn chance you'll be conservative. There's tons of factors. Your political science professor is being quite vague.

[Senoska]

It's like religion, you were brought up on those views so for all likelihood you'll continue with those views. It isn't so much parents alone though, but the culture you are raised in. A lot of parents won't discuss politics in public, it's just something about that demograph. They can talk about fucking their wife last night to their buddies, but they won't bring up their political stances. I guess it delves into nature vs nurture, but if you're raised in the south in a large family, good damn chance you'll be conservative. There's tons of factors. Your political science professor is being quite vague.

He isnt typing the message is he? He went into detail with this and called upon the same parallel with religion. I just don't care to type up my notes about it. Point remains, chop off your balls.

[Tyche]

I'm thinking about it after this next one comes >.>

[Saphirea]

I might be wrong but don't most Christians tend to vote republican? if that's the case most Christians tend to have larger families especially the Catholics... Going by your logic at least.

[Tyche]

I might be wrong but don't most Christians tend to vote republican? if that's the case most Christians tend to have larger families especially the Catholics... Going by your logic at least.

What can effect your political stance (or stance on any position for that matter)....?

1. Race
2. Religion
3. Ethnicity
4. Nationality
5. Gender
6. Language
7. Age
8. Ability/Disability
9. Parents
10. Passages
11. Economic Class/Work
12. Genetic Make-up
13. Sibling Placement
14. Time in History
15. Place (rural, city, suburbia, neighborhood)
16. Traumatic events
17. Friends
18. Bacon’s Idols
19. EQ/IQ
20. Cultural Defaults (metacritical and thematic)
a. romantic/classical
b. dionysian/apollonian
c. idealist/realist
d. fact/fiction
e. subject/object
f: fact/value
g. text/context
h. practical/theoretical
I. symbol/substance
J. govemment/people
k. word/deed
I. competition/cooperation
m. freedom (negative, positive, democracy)

[Maxxthepenguin]

I might be wrong but don't most Christians tend to vote republican? if that's the case most Christians tend to have larger families especially the Catholics... Going by your logic at least.

Different denominations have different voting tendencies, you can't generalize Christians like that in America.

[Neosutra]

Different denominations have different voting tendencies, you can't generalize Christians like that in America.

If by generalize you dont mean "most of a segment of people".

[Saphirea]

Different denominations have different voting tendencies, you can't generalize Christians like that in America.

I was just asking, after looking a bit more you're quite right. I'm surprised Catholics predominantly vote democrat.

[Maxxthepenguin]

If by generalize you dont mean "most of a segment of people".

It's a rather large group with many divisions. Grouping them together creates an inaccurate portrait. Last I checked, overall, including people who identify with Christianity but don't regularly attend, the political divide is right down the middle.

[Melchiah]

I was just asking, after looking a bit more you're quite right. I'm surprised Catholics predominantly vote democrat.

Really? I'm not.

Know what the difference between a southern baptist and a catholic is?

Spoiler: show

The Catholic will wave and say "Hi!" to you in the liquor store.

Example: Walker County and Cullman County Alabama are dry. Every few years, the alcohol statute comes up for vote, and it keeps getting voted dry. Therefore, you cannot purchase alcohol within those two counties. However, do not let this lead you to believe that the residents of those two counties do not drink copious amounts of liquor and beer. They just ride to the Jefferson County or St.Clair County line to buy their alcohol and take it back home.

The reason for this has been postulated by a few residents of Cullman County that I work with as owing to the local preachers having their congregations vote dry every time because they are getting a kickback from the local moonshiners.

In Alabama, the Christian Conservatives put on a front about alcohol, but drink it anyway. I cannot recall the scripture number, but the gist of the one they use in justifying voting dry is something along the lines of "If your actions cause your neighbor to sin, it is a sin for you to do it." Basically saying "If we allow drinking, and our neighbor becomes an alcoholic, we have sinned." At this point, it becomes an issue of political contention.

The Catholics on the other hand use wine in their services, and as a whole do not make alcohol consumption a point of contention in any venue, be it political or religious. This falls in line with liberal democrat values of less legislation on social issues and the bedroom, thus you find a large portion of Catholics voting D.

[Neosutra]

It's a rather large group with many divisions. Grouping them together creates an inaccurate portrait. Last I checked, overall, including people who identify with Christianity but don't regularly attend, the political divide is right down the middle.

You're basing your statement of the vagueness of definitive christianity. "Most" church attending christians are republicans.

I dont think anyone here is saying "anyone that possibly associates with a monotheistic philosophy leaning along the general lines of the christian dogma will 100% of the time vote conservative".

[Maxxthepenguin]

You're basing your statement of the vagueness of definitive christianity. "Most" church attending christians are republicans.

I dont think anyone here is saying "anyone that possibly associates with a monotheistic philosophy leaning along the general lines of the christian dogma will 100% of the time vote conservative".

Try some scientific rigor when talking about this stuff; an improper unit attached to your figures makes them meaningless. A complex accurate view is far preferable to a simplistic, falsely generalized view.

Christianity is a vague term that encompasses Catholics and Protestants of many flavors. Typically, Protestants favor conservative values and Catholics favor liberal values, though many Catholics will support conservatives because of abortion and gay marriage. Catholicism is also, frankly, more mature. It has had many generations and is at times scholarly to find better ways to view the Bible in ways compatible with the world at large.

[Kirin]

now this is interesting:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/sha...egun_near.html

obama's ground game and minority/youth/first-time voter turnout could be pretty damn significant if this is any indicator.

Its Atlanta, run by a Leftist (Loony too, shes a nutcase) Democratic African American Mayor, and also produced the wonderment that is Cynthia McKinney. But as for a rundown of the other counties mentioned:

DeKalb: Don't know.
North Fulton: Middle to Upper Class Caucasian, highly conservative.
South Fulton: Lower Middle class, ethnic mix. Definately leans left and relies heavily on North Fulton for funding.
Gwinett: Normally mostly middleclass, But I think the area was split Bush/Kerry last election.
Cobb: Similar to Gwinett from what I remember, but Cobb isnt really a happening place.
Chatham: Don't Know.

Doesn't surprise me that a lot of the early voters are African American. I think the figures are announced to be the same on a normal basis in Atlanta elections. Though on the whole, Georgia should be a red state when the election is over.

[Kirin]

Edit: double Post

[archibaldcrane]

The two most prominent catholic politiciains (i.e. the ones who made it on a major party presidential ballot [JFK and Biden]) are both democrats. Strangely the secretive, more cultish wing of Christianity leans more democrat.

[Deejay]

It's like religion, you were brought up on those views so for all likelihood you'll continue with those views. It isn't so much parents alone though, but the culture you are raised in. A lot of parents won't discuss politics in public, it's just something about that demograph. They can talk about fucking their wife last night to their buddies, but they won't bring up their political stances. I guess it delves into nature vs nurture, but if you're raised in the south in a large family, good damn chance you'll be conservative. There's tons of factors. Your political science professor is being quite vague.

Idk, I'm taking a government class this semester and my professor made the same claim. In a class of about 60-70 people, he had us all raise our hand if our political views were different than our parent's. I think 4 people raised their hand and they were all democrat raised by republican parent's. (there were only about 3-4 Republicans who raised their hand prior to him asking about our parents)

[Demosthenes11]

the fuck? lol
I can honestly say I have no immediate friends that are at all like their parents in their political views. Most of us laugh with each other after getting off the phone with our parents because of funny things they say on the phone (My dad dismissed all the bad things I said about Palin last time as lies, my mom thinks Obama is a secret terrorist).

Think maybe people are hung up on either liberal or conservative, and if you lean even slightly liberal then you say you are liberal, and vice versa. I think most adults are pretty polarized in their beliefs while the younger people tend to be more moderate.

[Beckwin]

there is no room for moderates in glorious revolution