Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Candidate

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

swampy dear, you've posted 2 right-wing links with less than verifiable sources. 200m is a significant figure and if there was any legitimate questioning of the source of that money, it would've hit mainstream outlets as well as the McCain campaign going on a tirade about it.

Silenus: I see you're kinda new, but you're gonna have to work on your trolling to cut it around here.

I'm not talking about that it might be foreign donations. That's the un-objectivity of the right wing sources, which criticize all you want, is not what I'm questioning here. What I'm questioning and doesn't change regardless of right wing source or not, is that he hasn't disclosed the source of the donations.

And no, the MSM wouldn't cover it Beck. They went after Hillary for falsely claiming to have been shot at, but not Biden...oh what the hell am I thinking, they're not in the tank for Obama.

[Silenus]

You're right about Newt; he should have dumped the broad years earlier. Nobody likes pity marriages. Getting her to sign such an awesome (for him) divorce settlement under medication was sheer genius. Bet he's good to his mom, likes his dad, and is right most of the time.

[Beckwin]

I'm not talking about that it might be foreign donations. That's the un-objectivity of the right wing sources, which criticize all you want, is not what I'm questioning here. What I'm questioning and doesn't change regardless of right wing source or not, is that he hasn't disclosed the source of the donations.

And no, the MSM wouldn't cover it Beck. They went after Hillary for falsely claiming to have been shot at, but not Biden...oh what the hell am I thinking, they're not in the tank for Obama.

I'm disputing your claim that Obama isn't being open with his donations, and you bet your ass 200m in illegal or secret donations would make the news. Hell, the figures on Obama's donations received from FM/FM employees made the news. Pretty sure there have been a couple instances from both candidates where questionable donations made the news and the candidates returned the money.

and stop acting like FOX or Rush or Drudge or WSJ or the McCain campaign wouldn't be all over a 200m figure with legit sources. stop qqing like a bitch about the libruhl media everytime someone doesn't take your newsmax/free republic/whatever trashy links seriously.

[Demosthenes11]

if you don't take links like that seriously, how do you expect people to take dailykos etc seriously?

My mind is blown right now

[Elvis]

Broad generalization is broad.

If someone cites DailyKos, then it's probably because they found the topic of interest there first. Perhaps, the analysis was interesting and lucid or they agree with the site's agenda.

In any case it'd be true for whether you support a site like that or a conservative site. IMO, the MSM is no better.

Let's just check these sources. I can think of examples where someone cited Kos and no one gave a shit because the sources checked out. It's a case by case thing IMO, unless you're citing Transvestites Weekly.

[Charismatic]

What if Transvestites Weekly got their info from a worthwhile source Elvis?
WHAT THEN?






...also cuffs

[Silenus]

Anybody notice in a scant three years, with virtually no legislation under his belt, the freshman senator from Illinois racked up more (known) donations from Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae than anyone else in government (aside from the head of the committee that "regulates" them)?

Or, does he get a pass for that, because he speaks well?

[Elvis]

DU NOT CONTRADICK ME

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

I'm disputing your claim that Obama isn't being open with his donations, and you bet your ass 200m in illegal or secret donations would make the news. Hell, the figures on Obama's donations received from FM/FM employees made the news. Pretty sure there have been a couple instances from both candidates where questionable donations made the news and the candidates returned the money.

and stop acting like FOX or Rush or Drudge or WSJ or the McCain campaign wouldn't be all over a 200m figure with legit sources. stop qqing like a bitch about the libruhl media everytime someone doesn't take your newsmax/free republic/whatever trashy links seriously.

We will see. It was only first posted yesterday.

[Beckwin]

if you don't take links like that seriously, how do you expect people to take dailykos etc seriously?

My mind is blown right now

pretty sure dailykos links have been scrutinized appropriately and many of them are editorial in nature to begin with, so automatically taken with a grain of salt. but is this just gonna be another case of you heckling instead of backing up your shit/verifying sources for yourself?

I'm gonna bet on yes.

[Silenus]

Hundreds of millions of dollars from China to Clinton's coffers didn't make much of a splash, even when nuclear technology went back the other way, so I'm not going to hold my breath for the "mainstream" media to crucify their hero.

[Beckwin]

silenus, really, you're bad at this.

[ZarakiKujata]

Or, does he get a pass for that, because he speaks well?

He gets a pass cuz he is clean articulate and bright.

[Demosthenes11]

Broad generalization is broad.

If someone cites DailyKos, then it's probably because they found the topic of interest there first. Perhaps, the analysis was interesting and lucid or they agree with the site's agenda.

In any case it'd be true for whether you support a site like that or a conservative site. IMO, the MSM is no better.

Let's just check these sources. I can think of examples where someone cited Kos and no one gave a shit because the sources checked out. It's a case by case thing IMO, unless you're citing Transvestites Weekly.

I wholly agree with this
You can't just disregard a site because it has a different agenda than you

[Deftscythe]

They went after Hillary for falsely claiming to have been shot at, but not Biden...oh what the hell am I thinking, they're not in the tank for Obama.

First if the media has a liberal bias, why would they cover either story? Shouldn't both have been swept under the rug? Second, I've heard that story about Biden's helicopter and why it was actually forced down at least twice today on CNN and it's only 1:30.

[Silenus]

Pegged you for a lib from the get go, beckwin. See? Now I typed your name. Win/win.

[Correction]

Anybody notice in a scant three years, with virtually no legislation under his belt, the freshman senator from Illinois racked up more (known) donations from Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae than anyone else in government (aside from the head of the committee that "regulates" them)?

Or, does he get a pass for that, because he speaks well?

Were the donations illegal?

Was his legislative agenda slanted towards bills and appropriations that favored them financially?

Or, do you get to ask questions without trying to make a serious point?

[Silenus]

Do legal donations influence politicians?

Does he have any legislative history whatsoever?

Yes?

[Olo401]

I'm not talking about that it might be foreign donations. That's the un-objectivity of the right wing sources, which criticize all you want, is not what I'm questioning here. What I'm questioning and doesn't change regardless of right wing source or not, is that he hasn't disclosed the source of the donations.

Would you like to see the list of over 10 million individual Americans, including myself, who have donated less than $200 to Obama's campaign?

Would that satisfy your ridiculously overactive to-the-point-of-suspect concern trolling?

Would that finally give you the obvious, already-disclosed answer that deliberately misleading fake news websites like Newsmax refuse to mention in their "reporting"?

Of course not Swampy. Because you don't give a shit about the answer. You're just here to stir shit up and use bullshit "news" to try and convert votes to McCain.

[Correction]

Do legal donations influence politicians?

Does he have any legislative history whatsoever?

Yes?

Do you have any evidence of this?

No?