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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    ALL REPUBLICANS CARE ABOUT IS GETTING CREATIONISM TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS, NOTHING ELSE. You're fucking retarded. It's possible to support someone without supporting all their views. I doubt most people support Obama's views on infanticide but they still support him.

    And look at what Obama has accomplished in his short time in office? Do I really need to respond?
    -legislation to reign in nuclear material
    -allowing every american to see where every penny of tax dollars is spent
    -large ethics reform bill
    -been a huge advocate of Iraq timelines
    -served on the Foreign Relations committee, including chairing the European subcomittee. has traveled abroad in relation to official duties for this.
    -proponent of the GI Bill reissue

    in the IL state senate, he got healthcare for uninsured children, worked for a lot of police related bills, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    I doubt most people support Obama's views on infanticide but they still support him.
    lol prolife propaganda.

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    Wait, people are still creationist?

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    coastal america and inland america are the new north and south

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    It's already been discussed in this thread, but hardcore conservatives don't like McCain, putting someone like Palin alongside him gets them back on his side. The choice of Palin isn't there to turn Democrats or independents over to his side, it's to get the Republicans behind him.
    Because there aren't any other republican senators, congressmen, governors, etc. who could do that?

    Sarah Palin was the ONLY person in the ENTIRE ELECTED REPUBLICAN PARTY who can get the republicans behind McCain?

    Palin was courted to get the Hillary vote. The more I play with the numbers and the math, the more I realize that it's not necessarily a bad strategy.

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    I wonder how the Demo's would have justified kaine if Obama picked him (because he was a very serious consideration with an almost identical history as Palin).

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    Palin was courted to get the Hillary vote. The more I play with the numbers and the math, the more I realize that it's not necessarily a bad strategy.
    It's a horrible strategy. Policy wise Palin is almost the polar opposite of Hillary, in Palin's initial speech she mentions breaking the glass ceiling because Hillary couldn't.

    As the campaign goes on all dems need to do is slowly hammer the point that women shouldn't be voting with their vagina, and eventually all but the completely retarded ones will be shamed(as they SHOULD be) into switching back or they just won't vote.

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    Don't know if this has been posted - but some left wing blogs are suggesting that Palin's baby that she gave birth to a few months ago, the one that has down's, may not actually be hers. It is actually her teenage daughter's. After looking at the articles I'm really thinking they might be true.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8...330/417/579267

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    ALL REPUBLICANS CARE ABOUT IS GETTING CREATIONISM TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS, NOTHING ELSE.
    Cmon now you're over-generalizing..

    We all know Republicans also care about keeping women barefoot, silent and pregnant in the kitchen, shooting endangered species with Uzis, forcing homosexuals into sexual re-education, drilling for oil that they can't refine, making government functions so unreliable that the funding is instead funneled to the companies they hold stock in, and holding the flag high and proud while they wipe their ass with the Constitution.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Q8p3GqPqQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odesseiron View Post
    You mean zero experience like Obama? ;x
    Even LESS experience. But the difference here is that the PEOPLE voted for Obama, this chick is the (irresponsible) choice of one man. If the people had voted to make her the VP candidate, that would be a different animal altogether, but they didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackrose View Post
    Aaaaaaaaaaand the Republicans just picked up the disgruntled Hillary voters.
    Maybe not. As someone stated, its definitely a ploy to pick up angry Hillary supporters, but I doubt it will work well because most women (according to what i've read) are just insulted by the choice. Of all the women in the nation in politics who have extensive experience and years of service in politics, he picks THIS chick? Its basically like saying, "oh, you wanted a woman? Hmmm ok here's one!" as if we're all interchangeable. Its pretty sickening. She has a measly BA, before she was governor (which she has only been for 1.5 years) she was MAYOR of a SMALL town in Alaska (not even a big city, just a little tiny town) and she was like... a PTA president before that. I mean really? THAT is what you call qualified? At least Obama is educated and has a law degree. Also, she's probably going to LOSE the "mom vote" because most responsible moms look up to women who put their children first in their lives. Most moms with 4-5 kids can't even find time to use the bathroom, take a shower or sit down to rest a moment, and this woman wants to be second in command of the country? (and possibly commander in chief, because let's be real here, McCain already has one foot into the grave anyway.) I don't think the mom vote will really appreciate that. Read around, many women are actually outraged by this pick.

    Its a gamble, and a huge one for McCain, and I am not so sure it will pay off like he plans.

    As far as choosing Joe Biden... people complained that Obama wouldn't have enough international relations experience, so he chose someone with TONS of it to back him up. Good choice imo. McCain chooses a chick with no experience to back him up, which is fine except he's nearly dead (so that's a problem) but his downfall is his temperament, and she seems to have a pretty catty temperament herself, so she does nothing to supplement his shortcoming.

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    Would somebody PLEASE explain to me why people think that Obama is going to raise their taxes when the only stated tax plans show Obama cutting 95% of American's taxes while McCain will just keep things as they are?

    Oh right, because they only listen to talking points and don't look at actual proposals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    Would somebody PLEASE explain to me why people think that Obama is going to raise their taxes when the only stated tax plans show Obama cutting 95% of American's taxes while McCain will just keep things as they are?

    Oh right, because they only listen to talking points and don't look at actual proposals.
    apparently mccain's idea of "middle class" is anyone who makes less than 5mil a year, also

    lol at that

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    Wow, right next to Turkey lol. Well, look at it this way, Turkey is a pretty progressive Middle Eastern country in relation to the rest, no? So it's kind of like you guys are pretty progressive hyper conservatives, eh?
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    In Italy, former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi wanted to retire evolution from schools in the middle level; after one week of massive protests, he reversed his opinion.
    Oh, Silvio, you stupid mother fucker.

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    This just in CNN reporting Palin's 17 year old daughter pregnant. oh the irony

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    You're fucking shitting me? Conservative morals, and her 17 year old daughter is pregnant? No, you have to be lying, this is just too ironic.

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...rpc=22&sp=true


    have to look for it real hard for it on Drudge but its there. also on CNN lulz.

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    Abstinence works lol.

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    also ib4 the "So? whats wrong with that?

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