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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    The McCain/Palin '08 Family Values Tour! Featuring:



    -use of derogatory racist terms
    -prescription drug abuse
    -creating a charity to funnel cash into your kids private schools as a tax-deduction
    -teenage pregnancy
    -abstinence education
    -teenage marriage
    -using foul chauvinist language towards your spouse
    -teaching creationism alongside evolution
    -adultery
    -marrying for money
    -not supporting equal pay for equal work
    -handling family disputes by abusing power to have someone fired
    i loled

    also, they could fix the teen pregnancy with a good ol falcon punch, i bet mccain would do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    No, i understand that. My comments were meant as more a generlization than specific doctrine or practice. Reading it back, I guess it doesn't really come off as such. Oh well.

    Yes in the end its ironic and contradictory to what many conservatives want to preach. But the fact that the family is behind her and supporting her I would hope any American family would reach the same result.
    It's not an indictment of her family to me, it's an indictment that she has THE proof that her views on sex education are misguided and ineffective and she is going to stick with them

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    Well, the polls were done before this Teen pregnancy issue got out, but the recent numbers had Mccain ahead of Obama going into this week by 1-2%, whereas the previous week they found themselves both perfectly tied.

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    I can nitpick polls too. Gallup has Obama up by 6.





    Polls are meaningless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Yes in the end its ironic and contradictory to what many conservatives want to preach. But the fact that the family is behind her and supporting her I would hope any American family would reach the same result.
    No ones denying that, we'd all love to believe any half-decent family would support their children through struggles like this. The issue was more of a self-induced stfu to the conservative mantra of abstinence, thus many lulz were had.

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    Aren't polls still done purely through listed numbers...aka mostly land lines?

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    beyond the irony of Bristol being pregnant, I still don't understand how the hell Sarah Palin managed to go through labor for so long with nobody noticing while she was giving a speech or on a long ass plane ride and then driving 45min to the Wasilla Hospital which doesn't have a NICU instead of one of the 2 hospitals in Anchorage that do...

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    You know what's the saddest thing about all of this?

    If Bristol Palin didn't have a well-to-do, well-connected family that could take care of her and her baby, she'd be viewed by the average conservative as just another slutty welfare queen who obviously didn't have a good religious upbringing and morals.

    it's disgusting. because she's a politician's daughter who will never draw a welfare check, she's "brave" for having the baby and the Palins are "sticking to their values" but if she was a black inner-city teenager, SwampdonkeyPLD would be bitching about the groceries he bagged for her that she bought with foodstamps.

    fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    You know what's the saddest thing about all of this?

    If Bristol Palin didn't have a well-to-do, well-connected family that could take care of her and her baby, she'd be viewed by the average conservative as just another slutty welfare queen who obviously didn't have a good religious upbringing and morals.

    it's disgusting. because she's a politician's daughter who will never draw a welfare check, she's "brave" for having the baby and the Palins are "sticking to their values" but if she was a black inner-city teenager, SwampdonkeyPLD would be bitching about the groceries he bagged for her that she bought with foodstamps.

    fuck
    Absofuckinglutely. And lol at bold.

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    I was going to say that you're just grasping to attack Palin, but you're actually right lol. Double standards are great.

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    how dumb does McCain have to be feeling for comparing Obama to Britney Spears when his VP pick is almost literally raising Jamie-Lynn?

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    hahaha

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    You're missing the point, it would be irresponsible if she was poor. Poor people aren't allowed to have babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    You know what's the saddest thing about all of this?

    If Bristol Palin didn't have a well-to-do, well-connected family that could take care of her and her baby, she'd be viewed by the average conservative as just another slutty welfare queen who obviously didn't have a good religious upbringing and morals.

    it's disgusting. because she's a politician's daughter who will never draw a welfare check, she's "brave" for having the baby and the Palins are "sticking to their values" but if she was a black inner-city teenager, SwampdonkeyPLD would be bitching about the groceries he bagged for her that she bought with foodstamps.

    fuck
    Yup. Its completely fucked up.

    Aside from that, the fact is, if the woman were giving her daughters the guidance and attention they deserved instead of being Governor and VP nominee and etc etc etc, maybe... just maybe... she wouldn't BE pregnant at all. I feel sorry for her kids, one baby with down's who needs her and a daughter with a baby who needs her, and instead of putting her family first she's running for VP? Shitty mother in my opinion, but she isn't qualified to be MY vice president anyway. A fucking bachelor's degree and she was what, a mayor and a PTA president. Get the fuck out. Obama doesn't have TONS of experience, but at least he has an education beyond some fucking Bachelor's of Arts degree (not to hate on those with that degree, but IMO you need a little more education to be president or VP these days) and being a mom (and not even a good one,) and the guy was president of the Harvard Law Review. You can't really hate on that.

    Can't even compare the two. The situation is fucking scary and I hope people start to see it for the bullshit it is.

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    So if Palin is a bad mother that mean John Edwards is a bad father and not worthy of being President or VP ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude View Post
    So if Palin is a bad mother that mean John Edwards is a bad father and not worthy of being President or VP ?
    Of course, they're both bad parents and unfit to rule the bastion of morality that is the US of A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude View Post
    So if Palin is a bad mother that mean John Edwards is a bad father and not worthy of being President or VP ?
    you got us there. we have no right to talk about Palin because Obama Choose Edwards as his VP.



    Oh wait.

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    Edwards's affair was sleazy and it was absolutely irresponsible for him to run for the presidential nomination when the affair was in his closet. It seems like Edwards is making peace with his family, but I still feel pretty bad for Elizabeth. Still, John completely killed off higher political aspirations with what he did, not to mention hurt his family.


    However... at least he didn't marry the extra-marital fling he had while his wife was crippled *cough* John McCain *cough*

    see this is why it's bad to try and throw in strawmans about unrelated dems, because there's always a republican who did the same but worse. in this case they're running for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    You're missing the point, it would be irresponsible if she was poor. Poor people aren't allowed to have babies.
    That's actually not too far from the truth, except replace poor with "people who can't afford it".

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