Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Candidate

[Tyche]

Okay I must be missing something here.





And then it says this:



So... Biden was the one speaking at the lower grade level because you had to have a higher education to understand what was being said? o.O

The top quote from Palin that you quoted was rated at an 18.3 level. The article when talking about needing a college level education to understand is referring to Palin's quoted sentence and Biden's 32-word sentence.

That's damn interesting and unexpected.

[Rockstaru]

I was confused too; I posted it hoping someone could help me figure out how they found those results. =/

[Aerin]

The top quote from Palin that you quoted was rated at an 18.3 level. The article when talking about needing a college level education to understand is referring to Palin's quoted sentence and Biden's 32-word sentence.

That's damn interesting and unexpected.

Mmmm, no it's referring to what Biden said not Palin at all. The whole sentence is about Biden.

EDIT: To clarify, I know that Palin's quote got a higher rating, indicating it was easier to read. But because Biden talked at a more sophisticated level (college level as the President even said), he is therefore really speaking at a lower grade level than her?

[Tyche]

Mmmm, no it's referring to what Biden said not Palin at all. The whole sentence is about Biden.

Sorry, poor wording by me, not "referring to", but "in context" to. I think the writer was talking about Biden's long winded replies of higher levels, as the quote came after talking about Palin's and Biden's long winded more complex and convoluted arguments.

Edit: Maybe the write just wrote the article poorly, at least in that reference. He stated that in readability statistics, you had to be a college grad to decipher Biden, but like 5 paragraphs before that, he states that Biden's readability was easier than Palin on a scale of 1-100. So you have to be a college grad to decipher an 8th grade reading level? I guess I don't get it either, I just thought he was referencing the complex grade 15+ quotes he used in the articles, but the verbatim statement the writer makes seems pretty blanket describing the entire debate.

[Aerin]

I'm still not convinced lol, what does everyone else think?

[Blarg]

Maybe overall Biden spoke at a lower level. It is an average of highs and lows and that last one was one of the higher graded sentences.

I wouldn't put too much stock into this grade level thing seeing as how it basically shows the sentence can be retarded yet still be considered high level.

[Zilong]

Since when do we care about reading level analysis anyway?

What are we? British?

[Tyche]

I wonder if she incurred point deductions for hanging G's and "gosh darn its".

[Feedmenow]

I don't get this grade level thing. Is this intended to match school grade levels, or is it a different system of measurement?

How is this quote masters-degree level?

What I would do, also, if that were ever to happen, though, is to continue the good work he is so committed to of putting government back on the side of the people and get rid of the greed and corruption on Wall Street and in Washington.

I never knew that prepositional phrases and vague descriptions such as good, greed, and corruption are of such high level.

[Enkidu]

I'm still not convinced lol, what does everyone else think?

Not that hard to understand.

That quote from Biden was rated at 15.6, 16 being a college graduate (4 year degree). The Palin quote was 18.3, or around a 2 year masters program.

They aren't complementing the rating, rather complementing Biden on not going too far in that exact quote. They said that quote would usually lead to something hard to understand, going beyond a "16" rating. If you're in a debate target audience is important and if your speech would rank at a 16 or 18 total, basically you just left half the country going "wat?".

Obviously the target, however, would be a little higher then 8th grade... Unless you're going after the black vote.


ZING

[aurik]

Sentence length is a big factor in the perceived difficulty in most "grade-level" calculating algorithms.

Sarah Palin tended to run on her sentences.

It's gotta be all about job creation.

[Zosi]

Generally speaking, a higher "grade level" can mean one of two things. The first is that the person is great at putting together sentences on their feet, and can skillfully manipulate the English language to express themselves precisely. The other is that they talk in run-on sentences and are good at keeping their mouth moving with not-quite-nonsense while they figure out what they're trying to say. It can't really differentiate between the two, because it doesn't have a clue what the sentences are actually about, it's just measuring various metrics related to word count, sentence structure and choice of tense.

99% of the time, politicians are the latter.

[Demosthenes11]

who the fuck cares?
MY DADDY'S DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DADDY'S

It's like saying "well my candidate plays on expert guitar in rockband and yours only plays on hard, OOOoooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOH"

[Elmer the Pointy]

Biden Pales in Pensive Perspicaciousness to Palin

A study has shown that Biden's brow-furrowage ratio was much lower than Palin during the debate. Biden furrowed his brow about 348 times, while Palin tensed up a total of 587 wrinkles. However, our data has no way to distinguish which furrows were made from deep thought, versus those of confusion.

Some nerd had this to say, "Calculating the brow disparity ratio is not an exact science."

Famous dead guy furrowed his brow 1,217 times when he debated. Still, more wrinklage does not necessarily mean smarter as previously stated. When Palin fumbled for an answer, her Skin Crease Index was measured at 66%. Biden also had challenging moments. When asked by Palin if she could "call him Joe," his SCI registered 72%, the highest of the debate.

Some nerd continued, "Biden usually jumps right into his answers, without a lot of time to stop and think. Last night was no exception. It's a sign of someone who is well prepared, but hey, feel free to word the title to make him sound retarded."

[Max™]

Thank you, Elmer, would you do me the honor of bearing my children now?

I was going to say: Palin tends to just talk things out on the spot, rolling the words around until she finally figures out what she's trying to say, then she kind of jumps on it.

"So then I think that what we ought to do is something involving the good of the people we are doing this thing for and in doing that we should make sure we take the needs of the American people into account. Yes! The American people are important, we should take the needs of the American people into account!"

'Um, I asked you about the War in Iraq.'

I haven't seen Biden talk yet, I'll have to go watch some vids now.

[Rhinox]

This
http://www.miamiherald.com/americas_...ry/711991.html

Coupled with Sarah Palins Knowledge of foreign policy due to Alaska's Proximity to Russia we are in good hands.

Found this little Flow chart that Palin had on Thursday.

http://www.alan.com/wp-content/uploa...nflowchart.jpg


And how lame is this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_131841.html

[Amastacia]

Way to bring up the chart for the 3rd time in 2 days.

[Elvis]

chartroll'd!

[Rhinox]

Way to bring up the chart for the 3rd time in 2 days.

You Betcha! Not that it even matters but it was more of a passing thing that I brought it up . Considering I've been out of town the last few days.


But hey look on the bright side it gives something Assholes like you can call me out on.

[Rhinox]

chartroll'd!

seriously