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    So Bristol could give birth to the Ron Paul of the future to save america

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Food for throught, though it might be a non-issue.

    Barack Obama's mother gave birth to him at 18. Yes, a year younger than Bristol, though 18 is still considered by many to be quite young to be raising a child.
    mhmm

    oh and obama's mother was on food stamps (OMG WELFARE) for a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nystul View Post
    I can't wait to see someone ask Palin about abstinence only education etc. I really can't wait. Please god let someone ask her about this.
    You have no idea how much i want this to happen.

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    oh god, imagine the VP debate when the moderator pops that question.

    biden is gonna have the biggest shit-eating grin on his face.

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    Do they really only teach abstinence only or do they mix in birth control and other stuff in with it?

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    I personally think that her daughter's pregnancy is a family matter and her family should be left alone, however, I -seriously- wish this would actually start a real discussion on the abysmal success rate of abstinence only sex education programs with the GOP, but that just isn't likely to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Food for throught, though it might be a non-issue.

    Barack Obama's mother gave birth to him at 18. Yes, a year younger than Bristol, though 18 is still considered by many to be quite young to be raising a child.
    A) We aren't talking about it as a character issue; we're talking about it as a policy conflict (and LOLage)
    B) We don't know if it was a choice, and his parents were married after 3 months of pregnancy and were were engaged before the pregnancy, it seems, so idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude View Post
    Do they really only teach abstinence only or do they mix in birth control and other stuff in with it?
    Abstinence only sex education implies exactly that, abstinence only. Its ludicrous and a waste of federal money to believe that you can simply tell teenagers not to have sex. They're going to have sex. Not educating them on contraceptives, especially those which help prevent the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases is just asking for disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Obama is now quoted as telling reporters to back off, keeping a earlier promise by McCain and request by Obama that Obama's daughters (and his family unit as a whole) be left out of political fighting. So I personally respect Obama for that decision, and I hope that the press and Obama's campaign as a whole leaves it alone as well.
    If anyone attacks it, it would be Biden and it will be subtly in the guise of policy. I doubt he will, but it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude View Post
    Do they really only teach abstinence only or do they mix in birth control and other stuff in with it?
    Abstinence only, as supported by the GOP, does not include a mix, so no birth control or even condoms, just abstinence. They think it's contradictory to tell them not to have sex (because that's the only thing they want to do) and at the same time give them the means to do it safely. They do seem to like ignoring that abstinence only unanimously fails in comparing to mixed sexual education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    If anyone attacks it, it would be Biden and it will be subtly in the guise of poliy. I doubt he will, but it is possible.
    It's Biden; i'll really be surprised if he doesn't.

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    Such is what happens when logic is overridden by ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirin View Post
    Food for throught, though it might be a non-issue.

    Barack Obama's mother gave birth to him at 18. Yes, a year younger than Bristol, though 18 is still considered by many to be quite young to be raising a child.

    Obama is now quoted as telling reporters to back off, keeping a earlier promise by McCain and request by Obama that Obama's daughters (and his family unit as a whole) be left out of political fighting. So I personally respect Obama for that decision, and I hope that the press and Obama's campaign as a whole leaves it alone as well.
    Honestly I doubt people will even need to hear from the press on this one, its so ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude View Post
    Do they really only teach abstinence only or do they mix in birth control and other stuff in with it?
    It's like the difference between pro-life and pro-choice. Pro-life says no abortion, period. Pro-choice can include many different viewpoints, including "rare as fuck, but lets not make it a back alley coathanger deal."

    Abstinence only means no teaching contraceptives.

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    It's not like you can expect sex ed to never come up again in the campaign though. It is an important issue.

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    and of course the Biden haters will cry a river if in debate he says "Abstinence only doesn't work" even though it's factual that it's not effective.

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    but really, WHAT is the problem with teaching contraceptives? its a health issue, not just a moral one. as xavier said, teens are GOING to have sex, and its risky not to teach them how to protect themselves from STDs, much less ruining their lives by having a child too early.

    i guess this just shows how incredibly useless abstinence only education really is, doesnt it. thank god the girl didnt get aids instead, that would have been truly tragic.

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    Speaking of which, are there really people who are pro-life and agree to abortions when it endangers the mother's life or when it was a product of rape? Seems contradictory. Kind of like the combination of Abstinence Only and and anti abortion... and anti gays being able to adopt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sera View Post
    thank god the girl didnt get aids instead, that would have been truly tragic.
    I have to know Kuya, would your day be better or worse if this had happened?

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    I will cry if I have to watch any of these debates. I would like to see Dr. Paul comment on this at the RNC though lololol

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