Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Candidate

[Rhinox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Xi8JnfAHI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YK..._n_133710.html

extended version of that clip with much more lulz.


Funny how even he is beginning to realize how big a fucking mistake he has made but it may be too late.

God forbid one of those fucking "joe Sixpack" rednecks decide that its too scary to keep him in office if he wins.

[Elvis]

Heh, Aurik beat me to it. I guess Bingbong selectively read that article.

[Kazen]

Heh, Aurik beat me to it. I guess Bingbong selectively read that article.

Like most articles.

[Kirin]

I was about to say...

Misconduct was clearly found. You're probably looking at the republican party press release issued yesterday as a subterfuge regarding this.

I believe the actual findings are that misconduct was found, but not in the case of the firings which were deemed legit and valid. The misconduct is apparently letting Todd Palin have greater access to the governors office and related staff while these events were occuring. No punitive action is recommended in the end either if I recall.

That in and of itself is questionable, as he shouldn't have had access to the governors office as he did. And im not saying the ends justify the means, but the ends would have likely happened anyways. Refusing to fire a state trooper for allegedly (im being kind here, as im not sure it was proven in court) tazering a 10 year old, regardless of being the brother-in-law to the governor or not is plain silly.

[archibaldcrane]

No, the misconduct was in regards to attempting to use her public office to settle a personal vendetta vs. her ex-brother-in-law. The firing of his superior was determined to be fair, but she was still illegally pushing for the trooper's firing.

[Aerin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YK..._n_133710.html

extended version of that clip with much more lulz.


Funny how even he is beginning to realize how big a fucking mistake he has made but it may be too late.

God forbid one of those fucking "joe Sixpack" rednecks decide that its too scary to keep him in office if he wins.

Political ploy or not, it makes me happy to see what McCain did there.

[Elmer the Pointy]

Political ploy or not, it makes me happy to see what McCain did there.

Color me naive, but I think McCain is genuine in his recent change in behavior. I find it kind of sad, because McCain is an honorable and respectable guy. I have read and watched, and just taken in as much as I can of both candidates, and I believe McCain is worthy of the office of President, even though my personal vote isn't for him.

It's disappointing that he got swept away in his own campaign, and it got this far. It's always cited how the people who shat him him in 2000 are now in his employ to empty their bowels on Obama this time around. I think it went over the top, and now the ugly results of those tactics (especially when mixed with race and religion during a time of such turmoil), have been a disaster.

I wonder if it's due to the same mistrust McCain has always faced fighting his own party. He got reamed in 2000, he was pronounced DOA when originally campaigning for the nomination, and now it seems his own road to the White House has been detoured by others, leaving him unable to run the honest campaign he pledged earlier in the year.

I want to believe the real McCain is the one at these rallies trying to assuage the anger, and correct the irrational hatred. That's the real maverick, I think, the guy who used to criticize "agents of intolerance," and not pander to extreme views.

What do the McCain supporters think of all this? Do you think McCain got swept up in the campaign, or do you think he's getting troll's remorse and ruining what was a good strategy?

[Dimmauk]

Color me naive, but I think McCain is genuine in his recent change in behavior. I find it kind of sad, because McCain is an honorable and respectable guy. I have read and watched, and just taken in as much as I can of both candidates, and I believe McCain is worthy of the office of President, even though my personal vote isn't for him.

It's disappointing that he got swept away in his own campaign, and it got this far. It's always cited how the people who shat him him in 2000 are now in his employ to empty their bowels on Obama this time around. I think it went over the top, and now the ugly results of those tactics (especially when mixed with race and religion during a time of such turmoil), have been a disaster.

I wonder if it's due to the same mistrust McCain has always faced fighting his own party. He got reamed in 2000, he was pronounced DOA when originally campaigning for the nomination, and now it seems his own road to the White House has been detoured by others, leaving him unable to run the honest campaign he pledged earlier in the year.

I want to believe the real McCain is the one at these rallies trying to assuage the anger, and correct the irrational hatred. That's the real maverick, I think, the guy who used to criticize "agents of intolerance," and not pander to extreme views.

What do the McCain supporters think of all this? Do you think McCain got swept up in the campaign, or do you think he's getting troll's remorse and ruining what was a good strategy?

I was talking to my wife about this last night, this was either the old 2000 McCain, or he is realizing that during this next debate he cant talk shit to Obama's face like people and even Obama want him too

[Day]

I say it's troll's remorse ruining a bad strategy.

Edit: Actually I find it pretty hilarious the corner he's backed himself into. You run all these "palling around with terrorists" ads trying to slander his name at every possible chance EXCEPT to his face, then when McCain supporters start buying into the whole "Hussein" and "terrorist" bit, it makes McCain look even worse. So he then has to undercut his own strategy, which is met with booos by his own party. Hilarious.

The ultimate

[Elvis]

I wonder what other countries think when they see American politics in action...

[Shuvo]

I wonder what other countries think when they see American politics in action...

Australian here / It's fun to watch, definitly way more then the elections we have over here. I don't even bother watching the debates between our PM candidates, but I've been following every single part I could of the American election. And aside from the hardcore anti-islamics, most are rooting for Obama.

And I imagine China/Russia are laughing it up big time over this. They're going on spacewalks while the superior American democracy are just bickering over who to elect while their superior capitalist economy is crashing!

(Edit: Yes, I know China has a capitalist economy too)

[Obev]

I wonder what other countries think when they see American politics in action...

Mainly, this.
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5...cepalm4kf4.jpg

[Kirin]

No, the misconduct was in regards to attempting to use her public office to settle a personal vendetta vs. her ex-brother-in-law. The firing of his superior was determined to be fair, but she was still illegally pushing for the trooper's firing.

And how does Sarah allowing Todd Palin greater access to the governors office not agree with this?

Just curious to your reasoning, cause im 90% sure thats what was in the report that Alaska released, not Palins office.

[Dimmauk]

He was using her Office staff to call and petition for the trooper's firing. I don't think that is what they are paid by us to do. Sarah knew her Husband was doing this, and did nothing. They also made a bunch of claims that the trooper was harassing them and even Tazered his 10 year kid. The investigation found that those were lies made up in order to justify their campaign to get the trooper fired.

[Kirin]

He was using her Office staff to call and petition for the trooper's firing. I don't think that is what they are paid by us to do. Sarah knew her Husband was doing this, and did nothing. They also made a bunch of claims that the trooper was harassing them and even Tazered his 10 year kid. The investigation found that those were lies made up in order to justify their campaign to get the trooper fired.

Which is exactly what my original statement was, sans the threats and tazering being "lies".

And i was under the impression the tazering did happen, but that the threats were added fodder. And the reason I say that now, cause im not 100% sure myself, is that the tazering incident was included even before she was a VP hopeful, but that the comments about the threats seemed to come after the fact.

[Beckwin]

William F. Buckley's son, Christopher Buckley, plans to vote Obama. Here's his article about the choice:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...case-for-obama

[Soa]

So Sarah Palin is dropping the puck in Philly to open the Flyers/Rangers game tonight. Oh man Philly is gonna eat her alive, I can't wait.

[Tyche]

Philli sports fans are ridiculous, they'd boo Santa Claus...

Oh wait...

[Senoska]

No, the misconduct was in regards to attempting to use her public office to settle a personal vendetta vs. her ex-brother-in-law. The firing of his superior was determined to be fair, but she was still illegally pushing for the trooper's firing.

It was only determined fair because she has the right to dismiss anyone from her cabinet she wants. They said that troopergate was probably a factor in the firing, but she didnt break any laws because she can fire him for any reason, but they said she abused the fuck out of her power, which she did.

[Dimmauk]

As governor, Palin at times bonds church and state

By GARANCE BURKE, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago

WASILLA, Alaska - The camera closes in on Sarah Palin speaking to young missionaries, vowing from the pulpit to do her part to implement God's will from the governor's office.


What she didn't tell worshippers gathered at the Wasilla Assembly of God church in her hometown was that her appearance that day came courtesy of Alaskan taxpayers, who picked up the $639.50 tab for her airplane tickets and per diem fees.

An Associated Press review of the Republican vice presidential candidate's record as mayor and governor reveals her use of elected office to promote religious causes, sometimes at taxpayer expense and in ways that blur the line between church and state.

Since she took state office in late 2006, the governor and her family have spent more than $13,000 in taxpayer funds to attend at least 10 religious events and meetings with Christian pastors, including Franklin Graham, the son of evangelical preacher Billy Graham, records show.