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    That video is freaking sad...

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    I LOL'd at the "maybe he is just tired" excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    Grammar: it's harder than you think, if you're from Arizona. And graduated 894th out of 899. Fifty years ago.

    Sadly, I had a moment like that earlier this week. Something like "not having control over large numbers of bored armed men is not a good thing when you are hoping that your polity does not collapse," but jumbled into incomprehensibility by lack of coffee. Too many clauses in one sentence makes my brain fart of a morning.

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    According to the wallstreet journal, Obama's leading with double digits in the polls. He also raised a total of half billion for the last couple months from donations alone. Half billion, that's $1 for every american or $5 for every eligible voter. and he will still have 200mil left for after parties. 2 more weeks, show's over.

    link to source, http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122462257051655701.html

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    Is Diebold in charge of this year's election hardware as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ni0n View Post
    According to the wallstreet journal, Obama's leading with double digits in the polls. He also raised a total of half billion for the last couple months from donations alone. Half billion, that's $1 for every american or $5 for every eligible voter. and he will still have 200mil left for after parties. 2 more weeks, show's over.
    Damn, that's one hella after party. I hope I get invited.

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    My father says Obama is underhanded for accepting donations that he said he wouldn't accept beforehand. I tried explaining that he said lobbyists but he now claims he meant all donations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco View Post
    Damn, that's one hella after party. I hope I get invited.
    Here's the location of said party.

    http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4...a2e2c9alg0.jpg


    /gold vault under bank of england. That's about 5 billion worth in the pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    My father says Obama is underhanded for accepting donations that he said he wouldn't accept beforehand. I tried explaining that he said lobbyists but he now claims he meant all donations.
    People are stupid, unfortunately for you though... your father is no exception.

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    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...alters-ta.html
    http://www.germes-online.com/direct/...Flip_Flops.jpg

    Just for reference:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1219...st_emailed_day

    Barack Obama's tax plan is the opposite of supply-side economics. He proposes to raise marginal rates for just about every federal tax. He also proposes a raft of tax credits that taxpayers can receive if they engage in various government-specified activities.
    Moreover, the tax credits would mostly go to those who pay little or nothing in federal income taxes. His trick is to make the tax credits "refundable." Thus, if the tax credit is for $1,000, but the taxpayer would otherwise only pay $200 in taxes, the government would write a check to the taxpayer for $800. If the taxpayer pays nothing in federal income taxes, the government would pay him the whole $1,000.
    Edit:
    I need to add this though so everyone can say this guy is biased.
    Mr. Ferrara is director of entitlement and budget policy for the Institute for Policy Innovation. He served in President Reagan's White House Office of Policy Development, and as associate deputy attorney general under the President George H.W. Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuvo View Post
    Is Diebold in charge of this year's election hardware as well?
    I have a friend who is poll-watching in Florida (Jacksonville area) this year and he's saying they switched to optical scan machines made by ESS. Only real problem with them is that the card stock swells in the humidity and causes the machine to misfeed a LOT.

    By the way Swampy I was reading that rape kit argument you had on the last page and I just gotta say man that it made me so sick that I lost so much respect for your positions. Seriously.. I'm amazed you didn't demand a fucking DNA test to prove it was rape. And I don't give a shit if you oppose the rape kits because it's a budget "pork" expenditure or if you oppose them because you're against Plan B contraception 'cause it's "killing babies" - do you really have that much blind allegiance to the party line that you have to defend withholding a few hundred dollars' worth of necessary immediate medical attention from a goddamn rape victim?! Sick.

    Makes me want to write a good rant like this one.

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    Yeah, my uncle used to work as a liaison between congress and the pentagon and was telling me about how McCain has always been extremely temperamental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    Yeah, my uncle used to work as a liaison between congress and the pentagon and was telling me about how McCain has always been extremely temperamental.
    That's a leader who will get you involved in Iran before you could say 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo401 View Post
    I have a friend who is poll-watching in Florida (Jacksonville area) this year and he's saying they switched to optical scan machines made by ESS. Only real problem with them is that the card stock swells in the humidity and causes the machine to misfeed a LOT.

    By the way Swampy I was reading that rape kit argument you had on the last page and I just gotta say man that it made me so sick that I lost so much respect for your positions. Seriously.. I'm amazed you didn't demand a fucking DNA test to prove it was rape. And I don't give a shit if you oppose the rape kits because it's a budget "pork" expenditure or if you oppose them because you're against Plan B contraception 'cause it's "killing babies" - do you really have that much blind allegiance to the party line that you have to defend withholding a few hundred dollars' worth of necessary immediate medical attention to a goddamn rape victim?! Sick.

    Makes me want to write a good rant like this one.
    Uh, what? I said it was wrong to charge rape victims, and that Palin never charged a rape victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    Uh, what? I said it was wrong to charge rape victims, and that Palin never charged a rape victim.
    She will certainly console a rape victim who will have no means of getting a legal abortion under her administration though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0ni0n View Post
    She will certainly console a rape victim who will have no means of getting a legal abortion under her administration though.
    I c wut u did thar

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    I'm interested to know how people feel about the financial cost of raising a child, which if not taken proper care of (and it costs a lot) is more dangerous to the child than anything. Preventing a pregnancy from taking place using the Plan B medication (which isn't designed to abort, it's designed to release the egg so that it cannot be conceived) isn't the same thing as waiting for about 6-7 weeks to find out you're pregnant and killing the baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan View Post
    I'm interested to know how people feel about the financial cost of raising a child, which if not taken proper care of (and it costs a lot) is more dangerous to the child than anything. Preventing a pregnancy from taking place using the Plan B medication (which isn't designed to abort, it's designed to release the egg so that it cannot be conceived) isn't the same thing as waiting for about 6-7 weeks to find out you're pregnant and killing the baby.
    We could give a shit what you do with the little fucker after it's born but gosh darnit you better not be thinking of having one of them there abortions

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    Uh, what? I said it was wrong to charge rape victims, and that Palin never charged a rape victim.
    Absolute bullshit. You NEVER said the cut was wrong - you simply equivocated every single time that it didn't matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    There is no record the town every charged anyone. Here's what the governor she defeated said though, "In the past we've charged the cost of exams to the victim's insurance company when possible. I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer."
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    Nope, but I do disagree with the notion that she advocated charging victims.
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    No victims were ever billed so how did she sign a budget that enforced the patients being billed? She's also stated she doesn't support victims being billed.
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    Because no victims were ever billed. If the budget made victims pay for rape kits why weren't they billed
    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    I'd like to see a link to where in the budget it was.
    ... and when someone gave us a link to the budget where it was cut and even pointed out the line item for us (i.e. brought out actual facts that you couldn't refute or equivocate), you didn't even respond.

    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    I apologize, it was when she was Mayor of Wasilia, not as Governor of Alaska.

    I'm not really interested in going through the Wasilia city budget line by line like she supposedly did, but if you like to, here goes: http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=136

    It happened in the year 2000.

    Do you have any evidence that this was not excised from the city budget, or that she didn't sign said budget?

    Edit: Digging further, it does get pretty obscure. While the budget for the line-item that included rape kits was dramatically reduced for the year in question, it didn't explicitly state that year that it went to rape kits or medical examinations for criminal investigations. This is an anti-Palin-slanting article, but seems to give a pretty clear timeline if anyone is interested in what exactly happened regarding the rape kit budget in 2000, and it does not present itself nearly as badly as it has been insinuated.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-..._b_125833.html

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    off topic(if theres a such thing): this is what i think it might end up looking like in 08!

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...kr/08guess.jpg

    what do you guys think it'll look like? I couldn't really decide which way i thought OH would go...

    http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/

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