Sarah Palin, Republican Vice Presidential Candidate

[Zosi]

I don't think it's necessary, and I don't think it'd be effective at fixing the root of the problem. Limbaugh and friends aren't annoying because they're right-wingers. They're annoying because they're the political version of supermarket tabloids. If people want to listen to that trash, go right ahead. If enough people want something more intelligent, they'll find it, whether in talk radio or another medium.

[Saphirea]

I don't watch MSNBC after seeing enough of Olbermann to want to punt a kitten... that D-Bag if wants a worst person in the world should be it day in - day out. Especially with how shitty he was on ESPN.

[Mrcloudz]

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[Dimmauk]

I don't see a need for it now. I mean I think with it going away we had the creation of alternate media. I mean with Sirius alone, I have Patriot (Conservative) Sirus Left (Liberal) and Indie talk (a middle of the row) We have MSNBC and Fox News which both are as far to their sides as it is.

I don't see the reason to have it in this day in age. If you want a particular viewpoint it exists.

Rush and Hannity are on Free radio, so they have a huge audience.

[Olo401]

Well, I personally consider Olbermann's show to be more entertainment than news (just like Bill-O). However, he gears his show to make himself look like he's the second coming of Ed Murrow and that's kinda where I get lost because Murrow wasn't about being on-air talent - Murrow was about being a serious, unapologetic journalist.

But that was a different age. I suppose you need the flair to get people's attention these days.

[Day]

Roanoke City, where Obama spoke, is more liberal than most of southwest Virginia. Also, if you look at the democratic primary map it's the one of three counties in southwest Virginia to go to Obama. The others being Montgomery County where Virginia Tech is, and the other being Floyd. Floyd is a 'gun-toting moonshine making redneck' county if I've ever seen one.

If you're looking to lump Roanoke into 'redneck gun toting retards' though, you're mistaken.

lmfao I live in Ferrum and work in noke... I know all about the area thanks.

[Dimmauk]

God I love Rachael Maddow

In 2000, McCain said there is ‘nothing wrong’ with the wealthy paying ’somewhat more’ taxes.

America lost a great senator the day McCain's desire to become president became to strong.

McCain says Obama will 'say anything' to win


By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer Glen Johnson, Associated Press Writer – 46 mins ago


ORMOND BEACH, Fla. – Republican John McCain, kicking off a cross-state bus tour aimed at keeping vote-rich Florida from swinging to the Democrats, on Thursday accused rival Barack Obama of saying "anything to get elected."

The Arizona senator said Obama had added a work requirement to his proposal to grant a 10 percent universal mortgage credit. A top Obama aide said the campaign added the requirement two weeks ago to avoid charges that the proposal provided "welfare" to non-working Americans.

"Thirteen days to go, and he changed his tax plan because the American people had learned the truth about it and they didn't like it," McCain told a crowd at lumber yard. "It's another example that he'll say anything to get elected."

An Obama spokesman accused McCain of distortion and said the Democrat's plan always included a work requirement, although it was discussed only within the campaign or to reporters who inquired about the particulars of the plan.

"Last week, Sen. McCain called Obama's tax cuts for working people welfare. Today he's claiming Sen. Obama doesn't do enough to help the unemployed," said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor. "The only thing consistent about these attacks is how dishonest they are. All of Sen. Obama's tax credits only go to workers and they always have."

While criticizing Obama, McCain also targeted his own party. He complained the Bush administration was not yet buying up mortgages so homeowners facing foreclosure could renegotiate them at a more favorable interest rates. The GOP nominee has proposed a $300 billion plan, but a similar one is included in the $700 billion Wall Street bailout recently passed by Congress. Both McCain and Obama voted for that plan.

"I call on the administration to act now and buy up these mortgages and keep people in their homes," McCain said before singling out Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. "And why is the secretary of the Treasury not ordering them to do that?"

The charges came at the start of a bus tour targeting blue-collar Florida workers who are like the Ohio plumber, Joe Wurzelbacher, who has become the central thematic element in speeches by McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

From Ormond Beach on the Atlantic Coast to Sarasota on the Gulf Coast, McCain was criticizing Obama's tax plans and promoting his own proposals to cut taxes for individuals and businesses. After his stop at All Star Building Materials, he was moving on to a doctor's office, a restaurant and a farm.

"Whether it's Joe the Plumber in Ohio or Joe over here," McCain said, pointing into the crowd, "we shouldn't be taxing our small businesses more, as Sen. Obama wants to do. We need to be helping them expand their businesses and create jobs."

Obama, speaking Wednesday in Virginia, rebutted such criticism, arguing that his tax plan would not raise taxes on small businesses and working couples earning less than $250,000 a year.

"Let's be clear who John McCain is fighting for. He is not fighting for Joe the Plumber. He's fighting for Joe the Hedge Fund Manager," Obama said. "If you make less than a quarter of a million dollars a year — which includes 98 percent of small-business owners — you won't see your taxes increase one single dime."

McCain's route not only covered the vote-rich "I-4 Corridor" through Orlando, in central Florida, but included informal stops between the more formal rallies. The goal was to boost McCain in a state George W. Bush won in 2000 and 2004 but which Obama is threatening to seize despite a strong GOP machine and the Arizona senator's endorsement by Gov. Charlie Crist.

Florida offers 27 electoral votes, fourth-most in the country. A total of 270 is needed to win the presidency.

Recent polls show Obama, a first-term senator from Illinois, with a slight lead over McCain. Nationally, an Associated Press-GfK poll shows McCain and Obama essentially even among likely voters, possible evidence of a tightened race 12 days before the Nov. 4 election.

McCain's first stop in Florida, for coffee with Crist and three business owners from the Daytona Beach area, proved fruitful. Mike Murray, owner of the Starlite Diner, said he was concerned about both candidates raising taxes but planned to support McCain on Election Day.

"He's got the experience," Murray said as the candidate sat at a nearby booth. "I'm comfortable with him. I grew up knowing his name."

[Saphirea]

Do you guys really think Obama will be able to reduce taxes with all the spending he's proposing? Also do you think it will be like how Clinton said he was just going to add a "millionaire" tax before office and then raised taxes on almost everyone?

[Vandalhart]

He's reducing taxes for those that earn under $250,000.
Everyone over that is going to have an increase and therefore will have more money
being collected over the long haul.

That is, if I'm understanding his tax plan properly.

[Palin]

It's really amazing how McCain's entire platform atm is based on misinformation. He keeps trying to scare people into their taxes being raised, when its been said repeatedly the Obama's plan only calls on reversing the Bush Tax cuts on the rich. Here in Orlando there's some students walking around with "Don't Tax me Bro" shirts on(a reference to the "don't taze me bro! kid from UF." It's kinda silly to see kids from middle class families who's parents are probably hurting badly believing that Obama's plan calls to raise their taxes.

I also feel the "Joe the Plumber" skit is so silly. The Republicans barely cared about the middle class for the past 8 years, but now that its striking a chord they're the champions of it.

[Dimmauk]

Do you guys really think Obama will be able to reduce taxes with all the spending he's proposing? Also do you think it will be like how Clinton said he was just going to add a "millionaire" tax before office and then raised taxes on almost everyone?

Well both say they can, and have laid out detailed plans on how they will do it. I hope they can, but when I shake my magic 8-ball its says

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[geno]

Do you guys really think Obama will be able to reduce taxes with all the spending he's proposing? Also do you think it will be like how Clinton said he was just going to add a "millionaire" tax before office and then raised taxes on almost everyone?

I don't think its fair to try to guess at how many of the candidates campaign promises are outright lies. I rarely see "do you think he can actually pass a spending freeze? Do you think he's going to followthrough on his healthcare plan?" in criticism of McCain. Its more often "Those are stupid ideas." Which is fine. You can say either's plan is stupid or ineffective, but I don't understand why you try to judge him on what you think he's going to do rather than what he says hes going to do.

[Olo401]

Geno, it's a tactic called concern trolling.

[travOtaku]

The stupidity of people amazes me. I was standing in line at the store yesterday wearing an Obama pin I got at the rally he held in Orlando, and the lady in front of me turned around and saw it and seemed to nearly have a heart attack.

"Are you *REALLY* going to vote for him? Why would you want to raise everyone's taxes, including your own? Why would you want to support someone that is going to lead our country down the path of socialism?"

And now a friend of me and my roommate wont shut up about Obama "taking from the rich and giving to the poor" and wanting to "even our economy out by spreading the money around to everyone evenly." And, according to his AIM away message, "a vote for Obama is a vote for the easy way out because you dont want to earn your own money and would prefer a government handout."

Also, John McCain's "Joe the Plumber" ad is effing hilarious. I guess people prefer for their "sweat" to be shipped overseas and dumped into Iraq where it will never be used to help fix troubles at home.

[Dantrag]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UwjlUMoLVvA

[Olo401]

The stupidity of people amazes me. I was standing in line at the store yesterday wearing an Obama pin I got at the rally he held in Orlando, and the lady in front of me turned around and saw it and seemed to nearly have a heart attack.

"Are you *REALLY* going to vote for him? Why would you want to raise everyone's taxes, including your own? Why would you want to support someone that is going to lead our country down the path of socialism?"

And now a friend of me and my roommate wont shut up about Obama "taking from the rich and giving to the poor" and wanting to "even our economy out by spreading the money around to everyone evenly." And, according to his AIM away message, "a vote for Obama is a vote for the easy way out because you dont want to earn your own money and would prefer a government handout."

I'd confront them both with the facts - like how the path to socialism was paved with McCain's vote for the bailouts, and how if someone thinks that Obama's plan would raise taxes then they're so damn lazy that they'd rather believe McCain's bullshit instead of doing five minutes of research on their own.

[Deftscythe]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UwjlUMoLVvA

In a similar vein, guy on CNN just asked some small town Nevada guy what McCain had to do to win his state, to which he replied "Keep hammerin away at our problems from the democrats in congress tryin to block George Bush from getting a handle on this sub-prime mortgage rate."

Say whaaaaaaaaat?

[Beckwin]

A couple new coworkers of mine believe Obama is a socialist and will take away their guns.

I corrected those fallacies but I could still sense an effort to not believe.

oh btw those coworkers are college students. OMG MINDLESS DUMB COLLEGE MCCAIN SUPPORTERZ JUST A FAD ETC

[Saphirea]

Geno, it's a tactic called concern trolling.

No trolling at all in the question I asked. You guys have a much better grip on economics than I do and was asking for opinion is all. Guess I worded it wrong is all.

I don't see how McCain can create a spending freeze maybe a reduction but not a flat out freeze just how I can't see how Obama can't only raise those taxes with the amount of tax loopholes that exist while reducing the taxes of people who in theory already are receiving the earned income tax credit.

[Correction]

No trolling at all in the question I asked. You guys have a much better grip on economics than I do and was asking for opinion is all. Guess I worded it wrong is all.

I don't see how McCain can create a spending freeze maybe a reduction but not a flat out freeze just how I can't see how Obama can't only raise those taxes with the amount of tax loopholes that exist while reducing the taxes of people who in theory already are receiving the earned income tax credit.

I don't trust either of them to fulfill 100% of their economic plans for the first year of their presidency; in fact I'm rather counting on it should either fill the office of President.

But I trust McCain's long-term ability to manage the economy of our nation far, far less.

It's not always about campaign promises.