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    Hurry up and delete that shit before they find out what you really think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/
    Palin_answers_on_abortion_gay_marriage_scrubbed_fr om_conservative_website.html

    yeah, so palin's stances on social issues have been scrubbed from her official web presence, including the infamous "under God" being part of the Founding Fathers' version of the Pledge.
    Au contraire. She said, "if it was good enough for the founding father's it's good enough for me." Right? It was added to the pledge because the founding fathers said it so much. She didn't claim the founding father's put it there. Good try though, and I can't believe that's even a relevant criticism lol.

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    Because I'm overjoyed at finding factcheck.org, here you go swampy
    http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspi...e_fairtax.html

    I never realized a 23% tax meant a $1 item became $1.30 instead of $1.23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    Because I'm overjoyed at finding factcheck.org, here you go swampy
    http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspi...e_fairtax.html

    I never realized a 23% tax meant a $1 item became $1.30 instead of $1.23
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    Oh dear god, look up the difference between tax inclusive and tax exclusive.

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    I know the difference, but calling it a 23% sales tax when people consider sales tax to be exclusive is misleading.

    Read it lol

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    dude, really? Here's the whole question and quote:
    11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

    SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
    The question is very specific about that phrase in the Pledge, and Palin cites that <i>that phrase</i> was "good enough for the founding fathers". It's not a serious moral or policy transgression by any means, but just shows Palin's ignorance on the subject (her ignorance seems to be a recurring theme, "hay wutz a VP do").

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    Like her or not (or not!), she's here to stay...

    Palin gets chance to fire back with speech
    Sep 3, 03:28 PM EDT
    By LIZ SIDOTI - Associated Press Writer
    ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- Sarah Palin prepared for the speech of her life Wednesday as John McCain's campaign called for an end to questions about its review of her background and derided a "faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee" for vice president.
    As GOP leaders lined up to defend her, the first-term Alaska governor took a tour of the Xcel Energy Center stage where she will accept the No. 2 nomination. A few hours later, she and her family met McCain on an airport tarmac as he arrived in the convention city.
    The Arizona senator's campaign set the tone for the day early with a written statement that stood out for its admission that Palin is under siege - it condemned "this vetting controversy" - and for its attempt to blunt questions about how rigorously McCain and his campaign explored the background of a candidate who may get the nation's second most powerful job. It also suggested that Palin is a victim of gender bias in the media
    "This nonsense is over," senior campaign adviser Steve Schmidt declared in the statement, lashing out at "the old boys' network" that he says runs media organizations. "The McCain campaign will have no further comment about our long and thorough process," Schmidt said.
    With a quickly arranged news conference and a fresh television ad, McCain's team also sought to counter Democratic criticism that the first-term Alaska governor is too inexperienced to be president - the same argument the soon-to-be GOP nominee and his Republicans have used against Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. The efforts indicated advisers are concerned the criticism may be taking a toll on her image.
    Surrounded by fellow Republican women, former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift bemoaned "an outrageous smear campaign" against Palin and said: "She is more prepared than Barack Obama to be president of the United States."
    The new McCain TV commercial quotes a Wall Street Journal editorial that says: "Governor Palin's credentials as an agent of reform exceed Barack Obama's and that she has 'earned a reputation as a reformer' and 'has a record of bipartisan reform.'" Conversely, the ad says, Obama offers only "empty words." It's set to run in key states.
    Obama's campaign spokesman Bill Burton hit back. He lauded Palin's "compelling personal story" and oratory abilities but also challenged her to "explain her reformer credentials." Said Burton: "What the American people will be looking for is whether she can explain how the economic agenda offered by her and John McCain won't just be more of the same Bush policies."
    McCain shook up the presidential race last Friday by picking Palin, a little-known governor less than two years in office. Since then, a bright spotlight has been trained on the life and record of the self-styled "hockey mom" who has bucked the state's political establishment.
    Days after Palin made her debut on the national stage with McCain, the campaign announced that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol Palin, was pregnant. Other disclosures followed, including that a private attorney is authorized to spend $95,000 of state money to defend her against accusations of abuse of power and that Palin sought pork-barrel projects for her city and state, contrary to her reformist image.
    None of the revelations seem to have shaken McCain's confidence or undermined her support among GOP delegates. McCain's top advisers say they, and the candidate, were made aware of all of potential problems during what they contended was a thorough investigation of Palin by McCain's search team members.
    Top McCain advisers said they welcome and expect a review of Palin's mayoral and gubernatorial record but that the media went beyond that.
    "Certainly, her record deserves scrutiny, but I think we ought to look at her record," campaign manager Rick Davis told reporters on a conference call. He condemned "the salacious nature" of some news stories designed to "throw dirt at our candidate." He urged the media to "dial it back."
    At the same time, Davis called for the same level of scrutiny on Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden.

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    Such bullshit, like they didn't expect to be "under siege" with such a left field fucking choice.

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    Did they not expect her to be put into national political mudslinging when they put her into national politics?

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    seems like Palin's idea of reform is firing anyone who opposes her and gobbling up federal earmarks when it's politically convenient....

    oh wait that's not reform, that's.... MORE OF THE SAME lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    (her ignorance seems to be a recurring theme, "hay wutz a VP do").
    here's the full transcript of that:

    "But as for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does everyday? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question."

    It's really not as ignorant as you and MSNBC make it out to be.

    Can you tell me what Cheney does all day?

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    lol @ "She is more prepared than Barack Obama to be president of the United States."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suited Aces View Post
    Can you tell me what Cheney does all day?
    I can't but ahem... I'm not running for VP.

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    The VP debate will be infinitely better than the presidential debate. I hate Biden and I'm not a fan of Palin...

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    Biden is gonna walk all over Palin. Regardless what you think of the guy, he's an intelligent, aggressive, and entertaining debater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    I can't but ahem... I'm not running for VP.
    Neither was she when she said it. Obviously someone informed her what her duties would be since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    Biden is gonna walk all over Palin. Regardless what you think of the guy, he's an intelligent, aggressive, and entertaining debater.
    Well we have no idea what kind of a debater she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suited Aces View Post
    Neither was she when she said it. Obviously someone informed her what her duties would be since then.
    yay guys lets all vote for the lady who just learned her job 2 fucking weeks ago

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    She sounds much much more aggressive than he, and that's pretty god damned hard to achieve. This is the person that wanted to burn books and fire librarians...I'm not sure Biden will walk all over her, Debating is more about voice tone, composure, and most of all, preparation. Not so much intelligence, but having a quick wit will help.

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    I'm pretty sure Joe Biden or Barack Obama or Bill Richardson or Hillary Clinton could've answered the question before the campaigns began.

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