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    Could someone please explain to me how exactly Iran is a threat? From my perspective to this point the whole Iran thing is completely retarded. But that is because politicians like to say "We need to invade country "X" they are a huge threat, no time to explain exactly why (throw in some euphemisms such as "terror" "nuclear weapons" "WMD" or other crap) just trust me its for the good of this country"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    What freedom is endangered by Iran?
    i agree here, but wouldnt you say a side that wants to TALK things out (what things idk) is better than a side who asks "why should we bother talking, let's just fight!"

    McCain DID say, he wasn't going to bother talking. In his own words "what's to even talk about?"

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    I think we just scared of nutjobs getting a hold of really loud and big bombs...
    and we've been "talking" to iran for a while, even if indirectly. Irrational and hellbent on getting a nuclear weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    I think we just scared of nutjobs getting a hold of really loud and big bombs...
    Really? Ironic, I was thinking the same thing when envisioning Sarah Palin as VP.

    You're right, that IS pretty scary.

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    What country in its right mind would actually nuke another country? That shit can't be hidden and that's the kind of thing that would unite many, many nations against the nuker.

    And listening to Guiliani last night, I thought foreign policy was about wiping evil out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    What country in its right mind would actually nuke another country? That shit can't be hidden and that's the kind of thing that would unite many, many nations against the nuker.
    the kind of country with leaders of the mentality that it is a noble thing to blow yourself up for your cause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    What country in its right mind would actually nuke another country? That shit can't be hidden and that's the kind of thing that would unite many, many nations against the nuker.
    In the world of 'an eye for an eye', everyone is blind.

    Realistically, it would be an act of desperation, or some insane attempt to alter the global balance of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    the kind of country with leaders of the mentality that it is a noble thing to blow yourself up for your cause?
    See the main thing that scares me about Nukes is if someone were to light on off in the middle east. I understand a nuclear attack on US soil in the states would be a rare occurence (IE not a surprise, we'd hopefully intercept it or something, or find the guys if it was internal). What scares me is the reactions. The last thing you want is nut jobs nuking the country in retaliation. The loss of life would be ridiculous. Personally I have a general angst for all humanity, but that doesn't make me feel better knowing tons would die from nuclear war.

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    we wouldn't retaliate with nuclear weapons at all. The entire world would invade the fuckers and take the country over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    the kind of country with leaders of the mentality that it is a noble thing to blow yourself up for your cause?
    ^^that.

    And the fact that Iran has such a great security program, that all of their nukes they manufactured would be completely safe, and unable to get into the hands of folks with less scruples than Iran.

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    Pakistan is much more unstable than Iran and they already have nukes. Not to mention they're likely to actually be housing terrorists who have actually attacked us, and have had testy relations with India for years now.

    But hey let's rattle sabers at the middle eastern country that doesn't currently have nukes and won't get in our pockets.

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    Pakistan is considered an ally and a fairly stable nation to the world though.
    Nor do they speak about how they wish to wipe Israel off the map.
    big difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    What freedom is endangered by Iran?
    Thats my fucking point you retard our freedom isn't endangered which is why diplomacy over military action is the smart choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    I think we just scared of nutjobs getting a hold of really loud and big bombs...
    and we've been "talking" to iran for a while, even if indirectly. Irrational and hellbent on getting a nuclear weapon.
    Worst fucking post in the history of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    Pakistan is considered an ally and a fairly stable nation to the world though.
    Nor do they speak about how they wish to wipe Israel off the map.
    big difference
    wonder how stable its going to be now that they kicked Musharaff out.

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    I wonder the same, will be interesting~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    Pakistan is considered an ally and a fairly stable nation to the world though.
    Nor do they speak about how they wish to wipe Israel off the map.big difference
    YOURE DOING IT WRONG

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    So apparently her teleprompter broke last night during the speech. At least we didn't here uhhhhh uhhhh uhhhh uhhhh like when Obama's teleprompter broke.
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath...not_break.html

    who to believe, mccain camp or reporters ... tough decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quannum View Post
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath...not_break.html

    who to believe, mccain camp or reporters ... tough decision.
    incoming liberal media etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    Pakistan is considered an ally and a fairly stable nation to the world though.
    Nor do they speak about how they wish to wipe Israel off the map.
    big difference
    yeah a fairly stable nation that just ousted their pro-West head of state and is succumbing to more radicalism and tribal influence, especially in the western mountains where Osama is believed to be hiding.

    but Iran doesn't like the US so it's ok to rattle sabers.

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