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    I never understood anti health care arguments. Why not give basic health care to everyone, which covers mandatory(No bullshit, you get cancer, it's paid for, etc.) things but not things like braces for your kid. Then the people that want that extra shit can pay extra for a better plan. Why is that so hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senoska View Post
    I never understood anti health care arguments. Why not give basic health care to everyone, which covers mandatory(No bullshit, you get cancer, it's paid for, etc.) things but not things like braces for your kid. Then the people that want that extra shit can pay extra for a better plan. Why is that so hard?
    because some of us don't like the governments hands in our pockets giving us handjobs, not to mention the inadequacies of letting government handle something like that

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    So fear of government justifies having the largest incidences of disease in any first world country, whilst still paying the most. You guys are in a wonderful predicament.

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    The government did such a good job with Walter Reed, taking care of 360 million more Americans shouldn't be a problem at all.

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    The government did such a good job with Walter Reed, taking care of 360 million more Americans shouldn't be a problem at all.
    yeah I remember when barack took a lot of heat for that whole walter reed incident that his health care plan helped create

    wait what

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD View Post
    The government did such a good job with Walter Reed, taking care of 360 million more Americans shouldn't be a problem at all.
    ah so you think other countries have better governments.


    also churchill, why do you think Cubans would have to get citizenship to practice medicine here? Cuban health and doctors appear to be highly rated; I'm sure they could handle the jobs of most US doctors.

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    also the military doesn't run healthcare in any country with UHC, so I dunno what you're even talking about really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    So fear of government justifies having the largest incidences of disease in any first world country, whilst still paying the most. You guys are in a wonderful predicament.
    why does the government have to be the answer? We can't always look to the government to run things to suddenly make things better; before we know it we are holistically dependent on the government (too dependent as it is). Government can do things to help and hopefully steer us in the right direction, but turning any control to them is not something I want to see

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    I don't understand how people think that all children shouldn't have access to health care, regardless of family status, parents' income, etc.

    How is this not a no-brainer, and how is it not a political no-brainer too? I can't imagine it's hard or ineffective to paint your opponent as hating children...you don't...hate...children....do you?

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    you caught me, I hate children
    Also, I hate Kittens...fuck kittens...

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    Also, nobody commented on this. This is insane. Frequent regular usage of racial slurs, calling Obama "Sambo" and Eskimos "Artic Arabs" and "Mukluks" - seriously?

    For those Republicans who don't understand all the animosity - this is a perfect example of what people fear is lurking behind the eyes of every ambitious republican. Yes it's ironic that fear of racism causes people to want to paint a group with the racist brush (more discrimination) but there you go.

    Just read the article.

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    So for those that missed the story, apparently the democrats left one piece of trash behind from what was supposed to be a trash free DNC.

    Specifically, 12000 American flags they planted around Invesco for Barack's speech.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESyOicMZIzI <--- FOX news blip about it

    Looks like Republicans aren't the only party full of hypocrites.

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    Oh Jesus tap-dancing christ of all the petty...

    nevermind, I forget how people get about stupid shit regarding politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    why does the government have to be the answer? We can't always look to the government to run things to suddenly make things better; before we know it we are holistically dependent on the government (too dependent as it is). Government can do things to help and hopefully steer us in the right direction, but turning any control to them is not something I want to see
    If your house catches on fire or if someone breaks into your home I hope to god you don't reach for a phone to call for some GOVERNMENT HELP. That might mean that you're too dependent.

    There is no reason why you shouldn't be offered healthcare from your government. Its not like saying "YOU MUST USE US AND ONLY US" its saying you can use them. You seem to have an unreasonable fear of the government, but that's no reason that people should die because they can't afford the healthcare they deserve.

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    Personally I don't give a flying fuck about it, but I figure all the people pulling petty reasons out of their ass as to why being a Republican automatically makes you a hypocrite and a horrible human being would enjoy knowing that the only garbage from the DNC was American flags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Personally I don't give a flying fuck about it, but I figure all the people pulling petty reasons out of their ass as to why being a Republican automatically makes you a hypocrite and a horrible human being would enjoy knowing that the only garbage from the DNC was American flags.
    If you support current day "republican values" you're a terrible immoral person that has no right in government of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senoska View Post
    If you support current day "republican values" you're a terrible immoral person that has no right in government of any kind.
    Let's be fair, you think that about all religious people too

    Krandor, no need to call hypocrisies on irrelevant bullshit. Stick to relevant stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krandor View Post
    Personally I don't give a flying fuck about it, but I figure all the people pulling petty reasons out of their ass as to why being a Republican automatically makes you a hypocrite and a horrible human being would enjoy knowing that the only garbage from the DNC was American flags.
    Clearly this is representative of how well Obama will run our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    ah so you think other countries have better governments.


    also churchill, why do you think Cubans would have to get citizenship to practice medicine here? Cuban health and doctors appear to be highly rated; I'm sure they could handle the jobs of most US doctors.
    Because to live in this country I think you need to pledge allegiance to this country, so to speak. They'd be benefiting, we'd be benefiting them, but I don't think using the labor of other countries inside our own borders is necessarily a good idea. We already do it abroad, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    Let's be fair, you think that about all religious people too
    Same thing. Republicans = Party of Jesus

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