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    well, that was fun... buses are rerouted and of course i can't get a cab to go within a mile of there...

    fuck it, i'll go friday after work - should be moar mayhem.

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    If only America could get that fired up about the real issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    If only America could get that fired up about the real issues.
    so the war and belligerent/imperialist foreign policy isn't a real issue?

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    Do any of them understand the solution or are they raging against the machine?

    RATM is awesome and all but only in the sense they motivate people, there's no John Adams putting clear and objective thoughts behind any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    so the war and belligerent/imperialist foreign policy isn't a real issue?
    For most people in their 20s, being anti-war and anti-Bush is just a fashion statement. They don't really understand why they're against it, just that they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Do any of them understand the solution or are they raging against the machine?
    So wait, are you willing to say that the Iraq War was a huge mistake, not only tactically but economically and politically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    So wait, are you willing to say that the Iraq War was a huge mistake, not only tactically but economically and politically?
    I really can't believe how ignorant you are.

    Anyway, just a caveat to all of this, RATM would play/protest either convention, they're not really for either party.

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    guys... really... when you get tens of thousands of protesters, you expect them all to be articulate and expansively knowledgeable about the issues? really?

    and if we wanna talk about fashion statements, how about Libertarianism for white college age males?

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    and yeah RATM isn't "for" either party but the bottom line is they didn't play the DNC and they are generally leftists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I really can't believe how ignorant you are.
    I'll take that as a checkmark in the no box

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    guys... really... when you get tens of thousands of protesters, you expect them all to be articulate and expansively knowledgeable about the issues? really?

    and if we wanna talk about fashion statements, how about Libertarianism for white college age males?
    About the same as communism/socialism for the same age group I'd imagine.

    RATM didn't play the DNC this year.

    I actually wanted to go to the RNC/DNC for the off chance they'd be there, glad I didn't since they didn't play and I'd be a political liability of sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    glad I didn't since they didn't play and I'd be a political liability of sorts.
    Churchill is kind of a big deal. Him showing up really would make the police take notice.

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    Amy Goodman arrested

    http://blogs.courant.com/roger_catli...-arrested.html

    She was released hours later.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THMVJQUGJLM


    Something like 300 people were arrested. Like, seriously?

    What's missing is McCain standing on one of the protesters, with thumbs up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    and yeah RATM isn't "for" either party but the bottom line is they didn't play the DNC and they are generally leftists.
    They played during the DNC four years ago, but yeah they're pretty red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    guys... really... when you get tens of thousands of protesters, you expect them all to be articulate and expansively knowledgeable about the issues? really?

    and if we wanna talk about fashion statements, how about Libertarianism for white college age males?
    I knew of very few Libertarians when I was in college (all 6 years; I'm a slacker), so I really don't know what you're talking about. If you're talking about the supporters of Ron Paul, then I completely agree with you. Most of them that I've talked to were either swept up by the popularity or were off-the-wall crazy 911 "truthers".

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    yeah i saw that earlier
    im at school now and dont get DN atm ><
    i bet its quite a show when shes back on

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    yes, I'm generally associating fad-Libertarians with Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pohibaba View Post
    I knew of very few Libertarians when I was in college (all 6 years; I'm a slacker), so I really don't know what you're talking about. If you're talking about the supporters of Ron Paul, then I completely agree with you. Most of them that I've talked to were either swept up by the popularity or were off-the-wall crazy 911 "truthers".
    You forgot the ones who only knew he was brazenly anti-war and pro-drug legalization

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    Not all protesters possess an in-depth knowledge of American history and political science as well as the current politics of the world.

    Some people have just enough exposure to these issues and then the rest is guided by an intuitive sense of right/wrong and justice/etc. This isn't unique to just anti-war people. I'm sure protesters of everything from clubbing baby seals to pineapple on pizza have "their" reasons. Often they might not hold up in a serious debate either. Sometimes people like this are just grandstanding but in other cases they are just but simply don't possess an empirical knowledge of the events/issues.

    In any case, lots of people are like that. They just may not choose to protest.

    I don't think we should expect people to be William Buckley or Noam Chomskey or anything in between (although Buckley is soft in comparison to neocons today).

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    Hopefully the cunts from Code Pink will get arrested. Seeing that would make my week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saphirea View Post
    Hopefully the cunts from Code Pink will get arrested. Seeing that would make my week.
    Arrested for what? I've never seen Code Pink do anything illegal, just INCREDIBLY obnoxious and detrimental to their own message

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