10 Questions from JP Players

[Achika]

1
Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

I rarely even hold grudges against people if a party disbands shortly after I arrive. If it happens multiple times, then I start to get annoyed and consider future invites from those people.


2
I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

I've never seen a list of that myself.

3
I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

Personally, I view NA and JP players the same way. They fill a party slot that's needed. I know some people get overly excited for JP parties because they feel that the JP parties are superior to the NA parties, but I find skilled and unskilled players from both nations.


4
Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

I've been hit with JP players saying to me {English} {Leave} {English} {No thanks.} when I claimed a monster needed for a quest. I've has similar attacks for /checking someone. I just want to see other people so I can see how to improve myself, I'm not trying to insult anyone. ; ;


5
Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

Again, for this I view NAs and JPs the same, they're filling a necessary spot in a party for an activity. Most of the time I'm not expecting anything outside of normal situations for each job when I'm filling a party, elsewise I'd more likely look towards my own linkshell members for specific activities, but I'll try my best to explain to a pickup, NA or JP, what they need to do.


6
I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

Smack those people. Hard.


7
A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

I think it's slowed down significantly in NA, but we do have a thing where you can buy basically a copy of the Vana'diel Collection that only has the base game code that you can buy cheaply in stores. I wonder if JP have something like this?


8
In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

I don't think there's a name for it, but I call them "slackers". People need to get out in the real world!


9
Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

There's a high opposition to RMT. I can't say the same for third-party tools because of Windower though, but I know I don't enjoy things like bots and such.

10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

I find that Galka players enjoy the subligaria for the "Brygid the Stylist Returns" quest. At least the ones in my linkshell seem to. It scares me. Past that, I'm not sure of any armor that people find a must-have for the look. Maybe the sunglasses style? I enjoy armor that looks like shorts though.

[matt4684]

Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

You bet. I've been invited to a party where I make 2/6 and the party leader tells me to find 4 other people. I've had others insist they can take our camp because simply because they want it. Generally for people who do this the first time I let it go and forget their name within an hour, but repeat offenders are remembered all to well

2
I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

Never seen such a list

3
I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

I personally try to avoid being a experience/merit points leader at all costs. But when I do lead a party I don't even pay attention to the E/J/F/G in the seeking party screen. I just invite jobs that I need or want.


4
Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

The closest I've come to being insulted by a Japanese player was to be invited to a party and seen a wall of Japanese for 30 minutes before seeing {English} {No thanks} even though I hadn't said anything. So I disbanded and got an immediate tell asking why I had disbanded with a reinvite.

5
Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

I use autotranslate so everyone in the zone knows what I'm saying. If you know the drill and can help me with Windurst Mission 8-1 (yes, I'm stuck on it) please send a tell

6
I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

I don't hate Japanese people at all

7
A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

I think so

8
In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

Yes, but I'm not sure if my mother will let me use that sort of language on the internet

9
Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

In my old linkshell if you said you bought gil my finger would somehow always managed to "accidentally" hit the "kick " button in the linkshell menu


10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

There is no better invention than the brass panties that are Republic subligar

[XanthePandy]

1- I've had other English Speaking Players ask me to party, I head out and then they completely ignore my tells since they found someone else. I find it very rude when I spend gil to get to the party camp, or time to get specific gear and medicine for a party and am completely ignored. I try to remember their names so they don't waste my or my friends' time again.

2- Some forums have topics about good players you have met on your server. This usually includes people of all nationalities and what they did to make you recommend them. The system isn't as popular anymore but I used to use it a couple years ago.

3- I usually like inviting JP players since they are often reliable when it comes to partying well with an alternative set-up and they are willing to party for a long time but the language barrier makes me feel as if not everybody is understanding what is going on.

4- I was once /slapped for not understanding what JP players were saying in a party but that was the only time it has happened.

I sometimes get upset if JP players automatically assume I'm NA.


7- A lot of players are quitting and then coming back. The new players are usually invited by friends or family who already play. FFXI doesn't get much publicity as a new game, more just to keep the people playing who are currently subscribed.

8- No-lifers.

9- Hatred of RMT is shared among all nationalities but I think selling accounts isn't as frowned upon as it would be in Japan.

10- Everybody loves subligars but I think there are a lot more people who like the beastman hats. I like Qiqirn Hats ^^

Bonus Question-
Bananas should be part of the lunch because they are healthy! You shouldn't discourage eating healthy things by giving them a limit.

[Gunslinger]

1
Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

This has happened to me with pretty much every nationality of player. I used to blist the player or "thank them" for disbanding on me (after all, if they disband on you the party probably wasn't very good to begin with), but after playing the game for so long I have just started to let it go.

2
I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

I wish, it would have made some missions easier! I did have a Japanese friend that helped me pass some of my limit break missions (no one would help me back in 2005 because I was a 'solo' beastmaster ;_;), but that's the only person I know about. On the flip side, I helped a Japanese friend learn every spell in Sea on his Blue Mage with my Beastmaster, it was a lot of fun duoing and helping him with his English.


3
I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

It often has to do with playtime and job availability. I never really look at nationality when I'm inviting people- I look at levels, rank, and if you're a galka it's an added bonus!

4
Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

I used to be offended by the abruptness of some of the responses (an unwillingness to try to communicate... some times not answering a /tell at all when you are looking for party- a "no thanks" would really be appreciated), but I realize that the language barrier is pretty daunting for some players. Still, no response when you have a "LFP" flag up is pretty rude.

5
Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

Absolutely. I try to use it so that anyone who wants to come can be involved. I'm not worried about having to communicate with someone who is level 75, you probably already know your job right? And if I see something that needs help, I can often use the Auto-Translate to get my point across. Ex. (Sleep) >> <t> (Thank You)

6
I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

You'd have to ask that player, sounds like an idiot to me. I'd rank that type of person the same as the "I hate English" players that have no reason for their actions.


7
A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

Sometimes, although it is more rare. The launch of the XBox 360 version did attract some new people, and I'm always surprised to see the people shouting for missions I did 3 years ago. I think that as an end-game player it's easy to look past these people because you don't often use the same areas.

8
In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

Yes, and I'm friends with a few of them. It makes you feel kind of bad for the person when they are sacrificing their real life for the game, but it's their decision, right?

9
Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

Hate, hate, hate. Heavily disliked except for in their own groups- specific linkshells or groups with bad reputations. While there's nothing players can really do about who chooses to buy gil and use tools, many chose who they associate with somewhat based on this.

Also, to be specific, many NA players use 3rd party Windower and don't consider it a third party tool. When we talk about "bad" third party tools, we're almost exclusively talking about claiming tools.

10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

Haha, yes. If there was an Adman Subligar I imagine it would catch on with the NA crowd- then we could argue if it's blue or purple :)

[bigrougabagel]

Question 1 response:

This happens sometimes, which is why i avoid partying with anyone outside of ppl that i know. Being an inconsiderate idiot transcends cultures. I have had players from several world regions do things like this in party. I see it more often with NA players, but that is likely because i tend to party more with them. I try not to inconvenience other players when playing because i dont like it when it is done to me.

Qeustion 2 response:

If this list exists, ive never seen it.

Question 3 response:

I personally do not go out of my way to invite JP players. If they have a job that would fit well in my party setup i will send an invite. Normally I like to party with friends, it is only when i try to party on a low level job when my friends do not have a job that lvl, that i invite others, NA or foreign players.

Qeustion 9 response:

RMT or gil farmers are strongly hated in the NA community. The tension has gone down since SE started cracking down on the HNM/NM farming RMT. I do not see RMT very much anymore outside of fishing bots, so they do not bother me as much. When they were competing for NMs that I or my friends want, they were much more dispised.

Third party tools are used fairly often, most use windower so we dont have to go full screen. This allows us to browse forums, look up information, or just goof off when not busy on game.

Question 10 response:

After camping King Arthro for over a month straight, I finally got my speed belt. My friend who claimed KA was wearing subligar. So i think subligar has some kind of hidden luck effect maybe? =P.

On a side note, we call subligar, man panties whenever a male character is wearing them(can include this last side note or not, up to you elmer, im sure the translation of man panties would be a tough nut to crack).

[Ashky]

1. I think it's bad etiquette to invite someone as a replacement to a party if the party isn't going to be going for at least another hour. But, I also understand that sometimes things pop up unexpectedly as well and sometimes people have to leave with very little time to explain why.


2. Never seen or heard of this. There used to be a list of players that were notoriously bad players, but this included both NA/JP people.


3. I don't care what nationality you are as long as you know what you are doing. I wouldn't invite a JP player to something I knew was going to be a heavy communication type thing just because it would be so hard to describe what is going to them. But as for xp, there is no excuse for not knowing what you should be doing therefore it shouldn't matter what nationality you are.


4. I have always had very good experiences with JP people. Every one I have ever met was very nice and I like to think it was because I go out of my way to be nice to them and try to communicate with them. The /check thing is a nuisance to you guys, but most NA players see it as a compliment. I can see how this causes some confusion between the two nationalities.


5. If it's all in Auto-Translate, then by all means they are asking for anyone who is interested.


6. These are the people who give NAs a bad name. This person is probably hated by most of his NA counterparts as well.


7. I personally have brought around 5-7 friends to this game over the course of my playing time. I think if the game was released the way it is now, there would be a huge difference in the amount of people playing it. How the game was in the early days really scared off a lot of people.


8. I think everyone would agree these are no-lifers (which there are a ton of).


9. Everyone openly hates RMT that I know but I am also afraid some of those that bash it use it as well...


10. I see a lot of people in Osodes for town gear. I guess people still like the look of it over most gear.


On a side note: I think this really opened my eyes to just how racist JP people really are. I used to think it was all a communication issue, but from reading some of the responses it really makes me think there are a lot of racist JP people. I find this very disappointing. Now, I realize there are some really arrogant asshats amongst the NA people, but the general distaste for NA people is very disheartening to me.

[Darwinion]

1. Yes of course. But I don't look upon these things as too serious. Sure I get annoyed for a short time but it quickly passes. There's much worse things people can and have done to each other in FFXI.

2. No.. never heard of such a list.

3. I personally prefer how Japanese like to party for a long time and then disband at the end rather than get replacements. But I also understand that not everyone can fit in with this so I'm quite easy either way. A Japanese party can actually makes it easier for me to concentrate too because any Japanese party chat I can't understand... so I just shut up and play.


4. I can't recall an incident where I was personally offended by any Japanese player. However, I don't like the {English} {Party} {No thanks} comments I see a lot though. It doesn't look good at all you know. It sounds very rude in English, much like your /check comment. It makes you look racist, even though I understand you may prefer to play with Japanese speaking players.

5. I tend not to shout for anything really except for maybe a teleport. If I did shout though I would still use auto-translate just so I get the message through to the most people possible. By that I'm not actively seeking Japanese. Just anyone that would want to take part.


6. Exactly! Anyone who did say that to you is an idiot. You are perfectly correct. If they hate Japanese why play a Japanese game?


7. I think so. But of course not as many as there used to be.


8. Wanker, tosser, cunt, fuck-face, nob head etc. etc. etc. (translate that then )


9. I am personally totally against RMT and 3rd party cheat tools. Having been in an HNM linkshell for a while now though I have grown used to the fact that other linkshells will use these things. It doesn't bother me as much as it used to. If it did I'd have quit long ago.


10 The joke question eh? People tend to not use subligars just because of how they look. I don't care really. If the stats are good then I will use it.

[Shinsei]

I really hope you consider my answers Elmer into the survey, I'm a very open minded person so, heh.

1
Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

Yes, a few people have done it to me before but I am not a person who hold grudges.

2
I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?]

Never heard of that.

3
I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

I do not care what country the person is from, as long as they are looking for party on the job I am considering I will ask them if they want to party with me. I party with anyone, japanese, french, german, spanish, english, anyone. There isn't any benefits of inviting a Japanese player, the only drawback would be the language barrier, but auto-translate usually works for me perfectly.

4
Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

Yes, I once had a Japanese player join my party and to find that I was English then he immediately say in party chat "(English) (No Thanks)!!!!!!" and warped out. I honestly found that to be very rude, and prejudice. I understand there is some culture difference, but in America, comments like "JP Only" sounds a bit racist. I do not think anyone here likes to see the "JP only" comments, just like how maybe some Japanese players feel offended when we use the /check command on them. Also please, there are many many skilled NA players who WANTS to party for 3 hours with no replacements and get lots of exp. Ironic enough, I have met more skilled NA players than I have met skilled Japanese players lol.

5
Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

Some NA players use the Auto-Translate out of laziness sometimes lol, faster than typing. It isn't really targeting Japanese players, just anyone in general. As long as we can get someone to help us we are grateful, be it English, Japanese, or French.

6
I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

I have never met anyone that had say that in game around me. But staying to the point, we do not view it as a "Japanese Game", we only view it as just a "game". We don't concern ourselves with nationalities when it comes to gaming, as long as the game itself is fun, we will play it.

7
A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

I believe it to be the same. The NA player base are just as frustrated with Square-Enix as the Japanese players probably are.

8
In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

Some people call them "elitist players" and some just call them "people with no life". Both do not mean the same but sometimes go hand in hand lol. Though, not everyone with tons of high-level equipment are all prejudice, some are, but not all of us.

9
Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

I guess it varies amongst the players themselves. There are countless number of people who are against RMT and botting in the game, trust me. At the same time, there are some who just don't care and still partake in RMT and botting activities. Some linkshells are against it, some allow it. I guess it depends on the players, but I believe the majority is against it.

10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

There are some people who wear subligar around to bring some laughs....but I am not one of them lol

[millionsknives]

1
Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

Yup! There are bastards all over the world so there are bastards all over Vanadiel. I just have a little rant to my LS then forget about it ^_^ ...ok, a large rant.

2
I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

Nope :X

3
I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

Generally i think; we all 'love' FFXI so why not party together? I dont go out of my way to get JP but i dont avoid it at all, I get what is needed for the correct setup. Pros and Cons depend on the luck of the draw~ as with inviting anyone whos LFP, they could be a great player... or could be a terrible one XD

4
Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

I think a thing that will come up allot is 'JP only' haha. Most English players see that as racist and insulting, this dialogue over the forums has helped us to understand why some JPs do that though. Another thing is when JP players insult English speaking players in party chat for no reason other then theyre foreign >.> I only know this is going on when i'm with a friend whos speaks both languages. Always makes for a laugh when she replys back ;P

5
Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

To me, it seems polite to use the translate so everyone can understand my shout, we're all in the game together and i dont see why we'd want to segregate it. I kinda think of it as rude when JPs shout without using it. Again, this is helping NA/EU to understand why you do that.

6
I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

Don't assume one person speaks for us all D:!!! Idiots and rude people are normally more vocal then the smarter and polite among us.

7
A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

I tend to think so but everyone on the forums screams the death of FFXI

8
In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

Yea ^_^ 'elitist dickheads'

9
Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

I personally am against RMT and Botting, l'll disown people that do it. *But* Windower is ok as it doesnt effect anyone else in a negative way.
Since Gil farmers have gone the way of the dinosaur, its actually a nostalgic pleasure to see them lol. Back in the day I'd make their life hell in any way possible.

10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

MMMMMM SUBLIGAR! hmmm popular equipment? ... Mithra RSE!

Filling this out and hearing JP views really made me wish the Auto-translate was more usable as it seems to be a large part in our bad relations. Its crazy we cant even ask [Why?] or [What?] with it! However, with this new found dialogue maybe we could band together with the JPs to demand updates to its functionality? With all their player base requesting something (rather then just NA/EUs whining) SE might actually take notice and do something. Would the JPs like that idea?

[Pleiades]

1
Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

Many many many times, and I usually do end up holding a grudge.

2
I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

The only list of players I have ever seen was a list on an old livedoor.jp forum thread that listed all the N/A and JP people they hated on Fairy. Other than that.. mainly 100+3 crafting lists and your usual drama threads.

3
I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

Most likely because they are either:
1) Impatient.. and just want to make a pt as fast as possible.
2) they are "omg Japanese ppl, kawaii!" freaks.
3) They happen to be seeking on a job they need.. with a good rank and decent gear.

4
Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

"{Leave} {Country} Fuckin Yankee" will always be my favorite insult I have received. One of many.

6
I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

We don't really see it as a "Japanese" game. It is just simply a game.

10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

{Subligar}{Power}

[Keider]

1. There's no avoiding people being pricks, so not letting them bother you is usually the only option. In that example though, I usually don't accept invites from that person again if they don't apologize or if it looks like they suck at their job.


2. I could see this existing in 2004. Maybe.


3. We'd rather have a language barrier than not have a party at all. I usually try to get a second Japanese-speaking player to keep them company in these situations if I can. Aside from that, it's no different than getting an English speaking player.


4. The whole "JP ONLY" thing annoys me, but half the time I invite them anyway and they'll accept. Maybe they're tired of waiting? Anyway I've never been directly insulted by a Japanese player in English or Auto-Translate so I can't say. I don't think there's any general way the Japanese handle something that we have a problem with either.


5. Yes, and we don't care how bad your English is or how silly the Auto-Translate stuff sounds. Most of us barely know a few words in Japanese and that's it, but we'll still string together stupid phrases in Auto-Translate if it means we can get something done. We'll sound retarded, but as long as we can actually understand each other, it's no problem.


6. Either that guy was pissed off or he's some kid trying to fuck with you. On that note, we can technically like your stuff without liking you, although that's kinda uncommon. We generally respect Japan for all the stuff you've shared with us over the last several decades. You gave us Donkey Kong, how could we hate you?


7. Probably not too many new ones, but I've seen a fair amount of vets returning.


8. There's no universal name, except probably on Alla where it's "elitist."


9. Windower is accepted, everything else is considered amoral. However the people that do it tend to be like "yeah, I bot/buy gil, deal with it," so it's not something people get up in arms about anymore. Fucking with the RMT is very noble. MPKing or stealing from them is always praised, especially if you get something valuable out of it and make them waste a lot of time.


10. Anything with movement speed, and I guess beastmen hats. Most people wear gear to show it off, unless if it's event or wedding gear or something. Every now and then you get an Elvaan male running around in a subligar trying to put his junk in people's faces when they /sit.


BONUS: If it isn't, no problem. If it is, fuck the rules.

[Shuemue]

Bananas should be part of lunch

[frdrizzt]

1.Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

I've met obnoxious people who will invite & disband before killing a single mob, and those who will invite multiple people for the same spot in a PT, taking the first to respond in the PT. I rarely hold a grudge, and just try not to involve myself in those situations. It is a game, and I play to have fun.

2.I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

I've never seen it, but please email me a copy of that list if there is one, whether it is JP, NA, or EU

3.I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

It's mainly availability for me. I'm not going to wait for an NA player when there is a perfectly capable JP or EU gamer seeking. I'll always take a player I know is skilled over one I'm not sure of, regardless of nationality. It's nice to be able to chit-chat with an English-speaking player, but I do have an LS to talk with if I can't.

4.Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

It happened more when NA was still relatively new to the server, but I know many of my friends and I were subject to the {Leave} type comments when camping the same NM. I haven't seen it for a while, as people have gotten used to additional players.

5.Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

I use it for the ease of writing the words. I know some players speak a little English or may need to discuss plans with auto-translate, and that generally works. I wouldn't say no to a JP or EU player who wanted to come, since I'm shouting to help.

6.I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

I'd say this is similar to Japanese gamers saying "I hate NA gamers". There's not a lot that do, but there are some bad apples that are the most vocal. People only say things like that when they are mad, not content.

7. A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

New NA players did join, especially with the Xbox 360 release. The monthly cost, distant release, and lack of solid solo play for new players is intimidating to gamers, and restricts new subscribers.

8. In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

We don't have a term for people with lots of high-level jobs or equipment, but we have plenty of names for those who use unfair tactics (such as stealing) to get them.

9. Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

A large majority don't like RMT or third-party tools, with the exception being Windower. Obviously since RMT are still here, people are buying from them, so not everyone does.

10. In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?[/QUOTE]

{Galka} {Subligar} {Party} {Yes, Please.} {/cheer}


edit: Bonus question - Since it is healthy to eat a banana, it is part of the meal, and not a snack.

[Delirium]

1 Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?

Yes, unfortunately. It is really annoying, especially on far camps. I try not to hold grudges about it though. Many times people just decide to up and leave with no notice when they see another party member leave.

2 I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?

Not that I know of. Occasionally there are Japanese players named who have particularly good gear or have 100 craft or something.

3 I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?

I invite people on a job would best suit my party. Nationality rarely comes into it. Rarely is communication an issue because most people understand what their role in a party is. For example, if there is a warrior, thief and ninja in a party, most warriors know they provoke first so that the thief can SATA the ninja. Sometimes players don't know or care about this though, but nationality or language hasn't seemed to matter for that.

4 Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.

I know most American players hate the "JP only" thing. I didn't know any better at the time, but when the American version of FFXI went live, Japanese crafters raised the prices drastically on the most basic of items.

The only time a Japanese player has hurt me in any way I guess, is when I started doing end game NMs. Japanese LSs already had a foothold on these things and were pretty ruthless about claiming and holding them till they were in a favorable time window for themselves or outright trying to MPK and steal them from us.

I do know a lot of American players, while they don't dislike Japanese players, feel as though they are looked down upon because of their nationality. They feel Japanese players think they are bad at the game just because they are American.


5 Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

It's kind of a fashionable thing to use the translator, I think. Missions are really hard to explain job roles some times. I would send a tell if you want to go. Most players try and explain things are clearly and as simple as possible anyway. If you are successful, its great. If you fail, most people get frustrated or angry, but quickly shrug it off.


6 I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?

I don't think most people hate Japanese people. I don't think we view FFXI, or any game made in Japan, as Japanese necessarily. While we know they are made in Japan, they are localized for America and feel it is just as much ours.


7 A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?

Rarely. World of Warcraft is a much more popular online game here in the US.


8 In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?

Tons of names! Nerd, geek, etc. It would take hours to list them all.

There's this really weird thing amongst American players. I don't even know a word for it. We really like to have the best of everything. So we strive to have the best gear, merits, etc. We enjoy overcoming the hardest stuff in the game, getting the best gear and then showing it off. I guess its a bit arrogant, but we take great pride in our success. It's a really rewarding feeling though getting that hard item or seeing your friend/LS-mate get it.

9 Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?

I don't hate RMT, but a lot of people do. They are just trying to make a living. However, they obviously had a negative impact on the game.

Third party tools are pretty vague. Things like windower are pretty commonly used. Their is no harm in seeing a party members TP or your recast timers. Things like POS hack or voke scripts ruin the game however. People that used them are generally hated for it.


10
In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

Subligar is popular for perverted players, especially male elvaans and galka. People I know just like standing around in the rarest equipment they have though.

[Veli]

Maybe we should send them a screenshot of windower with plug ins lol..

[Sepukku]

1.) Have you ever had someone from your own country do something bad to you? For example, they invite you to replace someone, and when you get there, they just disband. Do you hold a grudge against the person who invited you in that case, or do you think “Oh well,” and just forget about it?


Yes, it has happened to me. I do not hold a grudge if they were not rude. Mistakes sometimes happen, and sometimes unplanned things occur. Such is life.


2.) I heard that on foreign boards there is a list of useful Japanese players that will help people out. Do you really have such a list?


No, we do not. Not that I know of.


3.) I don’t go out of my way to invite NA players to my party, but NA players often invite Japanese players. What are the benefits and drawbacks of inviting a Japanese player to your party?


NA players do not see Japanese players the way Japanese players see NA players. We generally view everyone friendly. It really has nothing to do with skill level, because there are good and bad NA players and there are good and bad Japanese players. It partly has to do, I think, with our culture. It is generally the culture of the West to be accepting of lots of different types of people. In the USA, our country is based on bringing together many people of different types and in Europe, people are used to working and being around people of various languages, cultures, and ethnic groups because of their close proximity to one another.


4.) Has there been a time when a Japanese player has hurt or insulted you? Also, what are some actions that are normal for us that you find disagreeable? I’m interested to know and would like to hear your thoughts.


I don't really have many bad experiences with Japanese players. I only find it hurtful when they act like NA players are inferior (weaker) people. Both Japanese and NA players are capable of reaching the same level of skill. We are all people and I hope and trust the overall group of people on my server to give me respect as a person, as I try to give them respect. Japanese really don't have any bad actions towards NA opinions. The only one I can think of is that Japanese players lot items in a party sometimes. NA players don't look too kindly on this, we trust Auto-Lot to randomly assign them.


5.) Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.


It depends on the mission or Assault. I have no problem doing Lebros Cavern "Evade and Escape" or "Excavation Duty" with Japanese players, but sometimes, for more complex battlefields, the language barrier can be a problem because a lot of precise communication is needed.


6.) I’ve had a foreign player say to me, “I hate Japanese people.” But Final Fantasy is a Japanese game. If you hate us, why play?


This is silly. Basing the actions and words of one person to reflect the opinions of an entire group is a bad idea. That foreign player needs smacked on the head. 99% of us do not feel that way.


7.) A lot of time has passed since service began in Japan, and you barely see any new subscribers coming in. Are there new NA players still joining?


Yes, but like Japanese players, it is also in much lower amounts than before. Most people joining now are friends or people in love with current players who were urged by the current player to try the game.


8.) In Japan, players that play long periods of time, have many Lvl 75 jobs, possess tons of high-level equipment, and who are usually filled with prejudice and contempt are called 廃人 <[ ( hai jin ) " High Level person but disable from living real life " ]>. Is there a similar name you use for NA players who are like that?


Yes, we call them "losers," because, while they may be winning at FFXI, they are losing at the biggest game of life.


9.) Is there opposition against the practice of RMT or the use of third party tools? What do you do if your friend or Linkshell uses them? How do you feel about RMT業者 (gyou sha) or gil farmers?


NA feel strongly against RMT. While it seems Japanese players feel we like RMT, that is not the case. 90% of NA players I would estimate feel strongly against RMT. Third party tools vary - ones that give an advantage like 'bots' are seen badly, but ones that switch your Hume .DAT to a Mithra .DAT or allow you to run in a better window mode are not seen badly. It depends on what type of third-party tool. I do not make friends with RMT-using players. If someone in my linkshell is buying from RMT or using 'bots', I report them to the RMT hunters or GMs. As far as RMT (gyou sha), I find them annoying. They are hard to compete against because they can become so good at what they do since they do it so much for a real world job. Occasionally it is funny to watch them fail though due to amateur tactics haha - Like one time in Boyahda tree a group of 5 RMT characters all died to a Goobbue.


10.) In Japan, there are some people who are huge subligar fans. Are there any amongst foreign players, or is there another piece of equipment that is especially popular?

Nothing really. Players wear some gear to look nice, like holiday gear or opaline, but we have nothing equivalent to the subligar obsession.



BANANAS. They should be counted as part of the lunch. They're healthy, rich in Potassium. Encourage kids to eat healty. Do not limit them in terms of healthy food.

[Akucaen]

1
Yes. I purposely keep a list of people I'll never party with again due to bad manners, idiocy, inability to work as a team, or flat out job-ignornace after multiple attempts to teach them how to play it. I'd blacklist these players and get on with it, but sadly the blacklist is capped at 200 people and there are more than 200 idiots on at any one time.


2
I've never seen such a list.


3
Once upon a time I tried my hardest to invite Japanese players because there was level of respect that the Japanese knew more and could play the game better. Over time I found out that all countries harbor less-than-desirable people for any in-game thing to do, and I started inviting people I knew personally or knew good things about. This limits me to English most of the time, so really no. I don't specifically invite Japanese players; if anything, I avoid them now just for the language barrier. I'm more than aware you have several years of English, but in situations where IQ is already a problem, adding a language problem can be more trouble than it's worth.


4
Several times, too many to go into. As for actions you do? God, nothing is more infuriating than the standard Japanese "30 second warning" that they have to go. I can't speak for all NAs, but I can assure you when I like to seek, I'm ready to party for a couple of hours minimum. The answers from your questions came as a boggle since I've never had a "long JP party." It's always that they go for one hour or so, one person has to leave (say a DD), and the party completely disbands no matter how well the were doing.
I respect the idea of the revolver in terms of replacements; I'm well aware a replacement can not be very good. But from a culture that respects the group mentality over the personal, why don't you continue? If you have a tank, support, and need 1 more DD to continue the party, why wouldn't you continue for the good of the group's exp?


5
Yes. We want you to come. I'm not sure how clunky your AT system is, but in ours using that AT can help shorten the typing of (real) phrases out. Part of it is the allow a faster way to type it out, but I know when I use the AT, I'd like French, German, and Japanese players to consider my shout as well. You have similar resources to look up the tactics at your disposal, so you don't even have to worry about the language barrier per se.


6
When I say I hate a people, I mean the idiots among them. I have a very, very mixed set of feelings on Japanese people. I like your culture quite a bit, but I resent it compared to my own. My interactions with Japanese people in game are similar in that most of the time I don't want to deal with the Japanese, but every now and again I'll get forced into a situation with one and it's a pleasant experience that makes me embarrassed that someone speaking English is a representation as well.
In short, if I say I hate the Japanese, I really mean 1-2 particular idiots I'm still mad at from that day. I have nothing against your culture or people in real life.


7
Yes, actually. I've never seen SE publish the numbers save for several years ago now, but in my own linkshell we usually get 1-2 every month or two. It's balanced by people quitting as well though.


8
I'd just call them end-gamers personally. In our culture there's always a turning point where you stop enjoying the game and turn into "that kind" of person. Where only the most efficient means of killing is good enough, etc. I don't consider it a disability, but rather it's seemingly a case of innocence that turned into a cold player.


9
It depends. There is a violent series of arguments among our playerbase over what constitutes as a "cheat." Personally, I'm fine with tools like windower and its plugins [Yarnball and the like], extended windower macros, or ApRadar. I draw the line at botting/claim tools, which I'll never (and don't need) to use. I would have no problem turning in a friend that used claim tools, since they've ruined my night one too many times, but the other listed items I talked about I have no problem with, and I generally promote them.


10
I've always loved the "shorts" model. Byakko's Haidate, Homam pants, etc. They look good on male characters.

[Forbidden16]

5.) Lots of NA players exclusively use Auto-Translate when recruiting for Assault and other activities. Does this mean that you are targeting Japanese players as well? I’m fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Missions and Assault, but I barely know any English, and worry if I should even send a tell.

Personally I believe most of us have adopted this way of typing because of the benefits we get from writing much faster, getting our message to be understood by everybody and it's much better looking to have your message in an "universal" language than plain text, also the grammar and capitalization are sure to be greatly improved. Although the vast majority of us don't care about language/race when inviting people into our whatever purpose PTs, we do care about you doing your job effectively and not being a weakness for the PT, that's all that really matters to me.

[SephYuyX]

1) Yes all the time, in many situations. But I dont hold grudges and usually forget about it after a day or so.

2) There was a list back when FFXI was JP only, and importers had one, but as far as currently, im not aware of one.

3) JP are usually more competent than new comers, but I invite whoever is availble, whatever the nationaitly.

4) Not me personally, no.

5) NA use the auto-translate feature to be lazy, AND to invite EVERYONE. Most all NA do not care who joins, we just care about having the correct job/level. Please dont be afraid to join.

6) FFXI is an international game now, it is no longer JP only. It may originate from Japan, but the game itself has no real Japanese feel to it. It's open to everyone, and people who say they hate Japanese are racisit or ignorant.

7) We notice the same thing, but some how the game still feels populated, and the dunes are always fresh with newbs.

8) We are aware of those players, but I cant think of any particular name, maybe 'loser', but we dont really rag on each other, since we are all a bit of no life losers who play a game a lot. Usually that crosses into real life insults, and we try to stray away from that, because we dont know that person real life situation.

9) We hate them as much as you, and we try to do everything we can to get them banned, foil their plans, and get the killed.

10) Subligar is pretty big here too, atleast it used to be. People are more concerned with 'Town Gear', and that they always have their best gear on.

Bonus) When younger, we brough lunches too, but we could pack anything we wanted, and bring any amount of cash we wanted to buy extra things. I see a banana as part of a the lunch, not a dessert.

[Cochise]

1) Bad or disrespectful behavior comes from emotional stress and or immaturity. I'm pretty sure it is not based on nationality or culture.


2) If there is a list i have never seen one. Good people become popular by word of mouth.


3) I personally admire Japanese play style and ethics and can appreciate streamline battle tactics.


4) I have yet to experience anything negative from JP players.


5) I would encourage you to send a tell. But as with all shouts for assault you might run into someone disagreeable.


6) As for all nations and cultures you will find a very small minority that are ignorant and close minded.


7) Most of our new players are kids who can now comprehend the complexity of the game and their parents or friends they want to buddy with.


8) Yes we call them no-life emo's


9) I personally go out of my way to mpk fishing-bots. I have only played on console and avoid cheaters using programs.


10) LOL and in NA only femfanboys enjoy the subligar.