September Version Update Preview: Part Two (09/03/2008)

[Guitarman]

This is the only thing that potentially worries me:

The requirements for completing these quests will vary depending on how far you have progressed in Nyzul Isle, so it will behoove adventurers to be thorough in their reconnaissance of that murky labyrinth

Anyone want to venture a guess what this means? If you have a floor 100 disk you have a much easier time questing the skills compared to those in your group? or? I wonder what they could scale in terms of difficulty for this part?

[Lexa]

Jesus, if it's too hard people are bitching, if SE adjust it, it's too easy and people are bitching.

I think this update is win and God. <333

[miokomioko]

Son of a bitch, I -just- dipped out on my Nyzul PPT to go after Usukane that I'll never complete. ;(

[Sho]

Son of a bitch, I -just- dipped out on my Nyzul PPT to go after Usukane that I'll never complete. ;(

Silly PUP.

[Sylvrdragon]

This is like buying the iPhone when it first came out. You paid out the ass for it but you had a fucking iPhone! Then months later they slash the price. Then you're all "WTF I paid out the ass for this!" but everyone else is like "sweet i can afford one on my McDonalds salary!"

Then the make the new 3g iPhone. Process repeats. More people feel butthurt, but the newbies are like HURRAY!!

It's like first-mover disadvantages. You get to enjoy the Nyzul perks you've gotten up to this point, but if you'd only waited you'd be all like HURRAY!! But hey, you wouldn't have already obtained what you've obtained.

It's going to happen with ANYTHING that you try to do in this game. Try to do it first and you will invest a LOT of time and effort in getting rewards, where others will not have to do as much later (think about CoP, dynamis strategies, HNM strategies, etc.)

QFT, or am I the only one that remembers the XP nerf from 60-75? Remember how many 75s were totally pissed when they lowered the amount of XP needed to reach 75?

Also remember, in WoW, I'm told that the gear you get is outdated almost as fast as the computer you used to get it...

Pretty soon, they're just gonna start people off at level 30 with subjobs unlocked and Promys already beaten. The game will only get easier... I remember back in MY day...

[Yuri-G]

Holy shit I need to start doing some Nyzul, though I'm kinda glad I hadn't already started. FFXI content is just like new Apple technology: Early adopters always get screwed when the new/improved version comes out.

Edit: Err, yeah, what that guy said.

[Octavious]

QFT, or am I the only one that remembers the XP nerf from 60-75? Remember how many 75s were totally pissed when they lowered the amount of XP needed to reach 75?

Also remember, in WoW, I'm told that the gear you get is outdated almost as fast as the computer you used to get it...

Pretty soon, they're just gonna start people off at level 30 with subjobs unlocked and Promys already beaten. The game will only get easier... I remember back in MY day...

Yea, fuck that ! I loved merit parties on Aura Weapons in sky with RNGs meleeing and spamming Sideslugwindershot at point blank range.

All sarcasm aside, I do get nostalgic when I go farm Ulli, thinking about all the good exp times. :'( Good Times man ... ; ;

[Starr]

There is no pleasing people is there?

[Rowe]

Now-a-days it isn't a bad thing for SE to take steps that aid a player in soloing. I have played this game since 2 weeks before NA PS2 release. I like many who play this game have gone through the phase where I played this game far too many hours a week. I have quit the game 4-5 times and played Guild Wars, WoW and Age of Conan, but I keep coming back to FFXI.

Adjusting EP DC EXP won't turn this game into WoW, in fact they adjusted EP DC EXP once before what 2-3 years ago? The party dynamic is important to this game but also import now more than ever is for people to be productive when they can't get a party.

[Kaiyoko]

QFT, or am I the only one that remembers the XP nerf from 60-75? Remember how many 75s were totally pissed when they lowered the amount of XP needed to reach 75

I thought they just changed values per lvl or something like that, not the actual amount 60-75. I know I was in the 50s on my nin and they changed it, which made me lvl over night. Or am I thinking a different update?

[Octavious]

I thought they just changed values per lvl or something like that, not the actual amount 60-75. I know I was in the 50s on my nin and they changed it, which made me lvl over night. Or am I thinking a different update?

iirc, they dropped the entire EXP to 75 to what it is today. With todays EXP, 72 would be the former 75, i believe.

edit: can't check POL.com for verification at work though, someone help me out! :D

[Kaiyoko]

iirc, they dropped the entire EXP to 75 to what it is today. With todays EXP, 72 would be the former 75, i believe.

edit: can't check POL.com for verification at work though, someone help me out! :D

This was the update >.>
http://www.playonline.com/updateus/050421er1gb1.html
April, 21st, 2005 @.@. By how I read it they never changed the actual value, but I may have the wrong update too ;s.

[Octavious]

This was the update >.>
http://www.playonline.com/updateus/050421er1gb1.html
April, 21st, 2005 @.@. By how I read it they never changed the actual value, but I may have the wrong update too ;s.

Player status before the version update -> Level=51 EXP=8100
Amount needed for level up (before update) = 10000
Amount needed for level up (after adjustment) = 8000
Player status after the version update -> Level=51 EXP=7999

+

The amount of EXP required for leveling up after lv.51, and the amount of EXP lost when KO’d after level 25, has been greatly reduced.

Viewing the page through googles cache again, it says blatently that the EXP total was reduced for 51+. Meaning 1-51 is the same amount of EXP, but 51-75 was reduced significantly.

[Drako]

iirc, they dropped the entire EXP to 75 to what it is today. With todays EXP, 72 would be the former 75, i believe.

edit: can't check POL.com for verification at work though, someone help me out! :D

they cut quite a lot, wasnt only that.. i think it was 150k xp total (or more)

[Kenai]

AWESOME! I have absolutely no qualms with the weapons being a requirement now since pretty much every complaint I had about the idea is now dead and buried. Still holding my breath (not really) on Alexandrite requirements, but at least everyone'll definitely have all of the WSes they desire in a relatively short amount of time as long as they work on it for a month or so. Armor will be much easier to farm too since everyone can contribute tokens to warp to the desired floor, and of course easier exp for low man groups and soloers is welcome. I am really impressed by this.

[Tempyst]

If I recall correctly by the mid 50s you needed 20k to level and by the 60s 30k

[Octavious]

they cut quite a lot, wasnt only that.. i think it was 150k xp total (or more)

That's what I remembered. 72-75 would have been appx 41+42+43 (+44 to Cap), so I estimated ~130-140k. Regardless of the details, they dropped the EXP a loooooot and it happened right after I hit 75, lol I remember being so irritated.

I will say it did kind of make sense since it was so random to go from 5k->10k then 10k->20k etc, the jumping was rough.

Oh, and I found it funny they added Paeon V then lol.

[Kimiko]

Excellent on both fronts. As someone who's recently begun doing Nyzul Isle, I welcome any change that makes obtaining my mythic weapon easier (mainly the BLM staff & RDM sword).

[Antithesis]

The new less painstaking way to obtain Nyzul Relics is extremely nice imo and it is in no way fair at all.

Why do I think that? Beacause im pretty dam sure the Alexandrite count and 3rd quest will but rape us all.

[Damen]

They've already updated exp for easy prey and decent challenge mobs in the past, and it was vastly underwhelming. It's better than nothing, but I'm not expecting it to enable us solo exp in any significant amount of exp/hour.