All Worlds Maintenance (Sep. 8)

[Ace-o-fire]

The only job that has been officially regconised as solo job is DRG, SE mentioned it in their interview before. DRGs gear selections are quite limited until SE introduced Limbus. BST on the other hand have access to some of the best sky and king gear including Adaman Hauberk.

They said they where suited to be soloist.

[Flarega]

SE denied your A Katana skill. You'd be too powerful.

Yeah that extra accuracy and attack would really break nin.

[Isiolia]

The only job that has been officially regconised as solo job is DRG, SE mentioned it in their interview before. DRGs gear selections are quite limited until SE introduced Limbus. BST on the other hand have access to some of the best sky and king gear including Adaman Hauberk.

BST has not been added to the better heavy armor recently, and frankly is about on par with a melee BRD with an Axe stat/JA/traitwise. The pet is leaned on a lot more than it is with DRG.

[Midnightjade]

I forget, but are they changing Campaign and storage?

I just logged in on DRK 24 in Qufim, OP was beastman controlled so no warp. So I run to Jeuno, and look for a retrace so I can go solo in [S] areas. None around, so I go to get Warpscroll. Can't get it since I have another in storage, which I can't access from Jeuno (why is this anyhow?). So I switch jobs and warp, then run to Bastok [S]. Campaign is on in the city, and I can't get Sigil. I wait until it ends, and the NPC pops. He says I need to update medal before Sigil is available. I run to medal NPC, then by the time I get back to Sigil NP,C Campaign has restarted and he f***ing depops.

WTF, this is meant to be fun? I just spent an hour running from point A to B, to C and D and E, due to fucked-up game design. Total waste of my time. Are they fixing this shit in the update?

[Hyan]

I forget, but are they changing Campaign and storage?

I just logged in on DRK 24 in Qufim, OP was beastman controlled so no warp. So I run to Jeuno, and look for a retrace so I can go solo in [S] areas. None around, so I go to get Warpscroll. Can't get it since I have another in storage, which I can't access from Jeuno (why is this anyhow?). So I switch jobs and warp, then run to Bastok [S]. Campaign is on in the city, and I can't get Sigil. I wait until it ends, and the NPC pops. He says I need to update medal before Sigil is available. I run to medal NPC, then by the time I get back to Sigil NP,C Campaign has restarted and he f***ing depops.

WTF, this is meant to be fun? I just spent an hour running from point A to B, to C and D and E, due to fucked-up game design. Total waste of my time. Are they fixing this shit in the update?

Well, yeah, if campaign becomes easier, allied nations will get their areas back, resulting in no more attacks in towns, so NPC's wont disappear.

[Kairos]

The only job that has been officially regconised as solo job is DRG

they also said the same thing about pup in an interview over a year ago. Just because you can solo doesn't mean you always should. its just a bonus to be able to do things without the need of others often. This is exactly why SE hates the jobs they make that can solo, because then they can't work their forced friendship mentality on you.

[Kairos]

Dumber than a gumball machine. Same concept too. We put in a quarter (maneuver) and hope we get a red one, but you never do.

there is just too much truth in this statement lol.


edit: sorry about the extra post, still getting used to this new forum look thing

[Cadsuane]

BST has not been added to the better heavy armor recently, and frankly is about on par with a melee BRD with an Axe stat/JA/traitwise. The pet is leaned on a lot more than it is with DRG.

BST is immensely superior to a melee BRD "stat/JA/traitwise"; the rank for axe is A- as opposed to BRD's B in Dagger, not to mention that axe is leagues ahead of dagger as a main hand weapon. And the fact that BST hasn't been included in some of the new gear isn't worth mentioning since haub and dusk haven't been made obsolete over the years even for many of the jobs that have been included in new sets.
"Frankly", merited BSTs tend to parse well in meripos, as much of a revelation as that might be.

[Midnightjade]

BST is immensely superior to a melee BRD "stat/JA/traitwise"; the rank for axe is A- as opposed to BRD's B in Dagger, not to mention that axe is leagues ahead of dagger as a main hand weapon. And the fact that BST hasn't been included in some of the new gear isn't worth mentioning since haub and dusk haven't been made obsolete over the years even for many of the jobs that have been included in new sets.
"Frankly", merited BSTs tend to parse well in meripos, as much of a revelation as that might be.

Very true. However, you'd probably find that if you solo BRD/BST at 75, you might do better than BST/anything. Same probably goes for DNC/BST, RDM/BST, WHM/BST, PLD/BST, and maybe other jobs.

I really love my BST, but it may be the only job that performs better at 75 as a sub (assuming you have it leveled to 75 in the first place).

[Ophannus]

BST/SCH is pretty swell too. Get basically the same things /WHM would give plus uncapped Sleep,Dispel,Cures,-na,RegenII,Sublimation

[Silenka]

I really love my BST, but it may be the only job that performs better at 75 as a sub (assuming you have it leveled to 75 in the first place).

May I present DNC to the court...

[Isiolia]

BST is immensely superior to a melee BRD "stat/JA/traitwise"; the rank for axe is A- as opposed to BRD's B in Dagger, not to mention that axe is leagues ahead of dagger as a main hand weapon. And the fact that BST hasn't been included in some of the new gear isn't worth mentioning since haub and dusk haven't been made obsolete over the years even for many of the jobs that have been included in new sets.
"Frankly", merited BSTs tend to parse well in meripos, as much of a revelation as that might be.

That's skill cap. I'm not saying BST doesn't have that going for them, or gear selection.

What I mean is:

75 BST/NIN (Mithra)
STR 62
DEX 76
VIT 62
AGI 65
INT 60
MND 54
CHR 62

75 BRD/NIN (Mithra)
STR 62
DEX 73
VIT 62
AGI 65
INT 63
MND 57
CHR 60

Combat JAs:

BST: None.
BRD: None.

Combat Traits:

BST: None.
BRD: None.

Everything BST has is related to their pet, or is a Killer trait, which at one point meant something offensively, but no longer does. Every other DD has at least traits for DD. Even PUP (Martial Arts).

I've played BST in merit, I know how it can do. It does well in the same sense that PLD/NIN can do well. You can put out a respectable performance, but give a WAR the same gear and it's no contest.

This isn't a problem in and of itself, but pets really fall behind when damage of others ramps up. Sure, you can get damage out of them given enough time, but they don't scale well. That's the main problem, IMO, with BST, though a combat JA/trait or two wouldn't hurt either.

[Ahlah]

Totally agree with Insolia.

SE no longer ignored players' request after they released TAU expansion. 2h weapon update and new melee weapon/gears turned SAM, DRG and DRK into first line DD jobs. For the first time, DRGs are allowed to wear heavy armour after years of bitter complaints.

Skadi's set does nothing to enhance BST melee performance compared to the exisitng gears. BST community keep asking for better solo gears so SE gave them lol Khimaira JSE.

Can't really expect SE to give the job something new when BSTs still believe they can keep up with other melee job with temperance axe and Lars.

they also said the same thing about pup in an interview over a year ago. Just because you can solo doesn't mean you always should. its just a bonus to be able to do things without the need of others often. This is exactly why SE hates the jobs they make that can solo, because then they can't work their forced friendship mentality on you.

Exactly, the problem with BST is not the job itself but the ppl who play the job. SE will only modify a job based on how it's perceived by the players. Pay a visit to BST forum on Allakhazam and you will understand why BST is left behind. 90% of the BST still believe they should never join experience/merit party or participate in endgame activities because it's against the BST code.

[Midnightjade]

I also agree. BST atm is a really fun solo job, and good for missions where hate misdirection is useful. However, in a straight meripo setting, it's below par when compared with a similarly geared WAR.

It could really use some upgrades.

[Lampoon]

Scaling down gear is gonna fail big time. It shouldn't even be called scaled down if the stats are removed all together.

[nekura]

Well, yeah, if campaign becomes easier, allied nations will get their areas back, resulting in no more attacks in towns, so NPC's wont disappear.

Pretty sure they also said NPCs would no longer be scared little bitches and run away when a Campaign battle occurs.

[evilpaul]

I wouldn't count Martial Arts as a 'Combat Trait' for PUP. It's kind of required to make H2H at all viable.

Pretty sure they also said NPCs would no longer be scared little bitches and run away when a Campaign battle occurs.

That was with regards to the regional teleport ones and possibly the chocobo ones which are supposed to actually rent out birds after the Monday update.

[Aksannyi]

Would be nice if the evaluation ones wouldn't fucking run away so that those of us who don't live in the past (lol) can get their tags renewed so they can actually participate. Waited over an hour for that son of a bitch to pop and couldn't do shit about it.

[Feedmenow]

BST would actually be pretty awesome if there was some way to improve pet accuracy. Monsters (and jug pets) have pretty high per-hit damage for 240 delay. I parsed one time on Suzaku on sky, and these are the statistics on it's damage:

Total Melee Damage: 2290 Hits/Misses: 39/86 (31.20%) Melee high/low: 34/67 (55.81 average) Critical High/low: 94/131 (Average: 112.50 Percentage of happening 5.13%)

Lars's accuracy when I was using him in a 72 party in Caedarva mire was 64% on imps, 58% on Jnun, and 57% on Flies, on summary being ~60%. Melee average damage was 76 per hit.

Other than puppet roll, there's no way of improving a pet's accuracy. Even if it was as useful as Hunter's roll, you're not going to get it unless you're in a party of mostly PUP, BST, and SMNs as DDs.

and as for PUP, at the least give them Faith Baghnakhs instead of Hope Staff.

[Priran]

PUPs should be able to directly control their puppets. The Maneuver system as a whole is horse shit; Overloading is an entirely pointless mechanic that no other job has to deal with, and having to reapply a maneuver more or less every 15 seconds is a hassle. It's like a BLM having to submit a formal request for their gear's MAB to maybe kick in for one spell, and getting silenced for 2 minutes if they cast too often.

SE doesn't want to work on the Maton's AI? Fine, ditch it and give PUPs Blood Pact-like menus for a maton's Spells, WS, and certain Attachments. Maneuvers should have Overload removed and provide a small stat boost aside from the shitty one they already give.