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  1. #201
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    PUPs should be able to directly control their puppets. The Maneuver system as a whole is horse shit; Overloading is an entirely pointless mechanic that no other job has to deal with, and having to reapply a maneuver more or less every 15 seconds is a hassle. It's like a BLM having to submit a formal request for their gear's MAB to maybe kick in for one spell, and getting silenced for 2 minutes if they cast too often.

    SE doesn't want to work on the Maton's AI? Fine, ditch it and give PUPs Blood Pact-like menus for a maton's Spells, WS, and certain Attachments. Maneuvers should have Overload removed and provide a small stat boost aside from the shitty one they already give.
    Drop it entirely for gambit system from FF12. Would be perfect for any pet job / fellow.

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    Gambit would be kick ass, and would probably create a bunch of AFK farmers.

    Gambit
    -> Attack Notorious Monster
    -> Attack Nearest Monster
    -> HP < 50% Heal
    -> MP < 10% Rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    Drop it entirely for gambit system from FF12. Would be perfect for any pet job / fellow.
    God, if only. Maybe they thought adding Overload as a penalty, much like COR's Bust! would make the job seem more balanced, but obviously they were wrong because it's nothing more than a pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD View Post
    The thing that makes it different this time around (IMO) is the lack of any job adjustment notes, and we've gotten at least 1 per update since WOG came out. They've hinted at that NIN ability and new avatars for months and they've made good on all the other stuff they promised.
    There is also the fact that they had to deal with AV/PW in this update, which may have pushed things back.

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    Bleh, maybe AV took a bit of work, but I'm betting all they did for PW was lower the lamps' HP. In any case, I don't think it took up a large chunk of their time if they can fart out something like Level Sync; nice, but complicated and unnecessary. They could have just as easily skipped THAT, but it's coming down the pike (unless they do a "we're sorry to say Lv. Sync was delayed" on us.) For the sake of argument, lets say Job Adjustments and Lv. Sync were equally hard to program. Would you push the thing no one knows about or the thing many people are looking forward to?

  6. #206
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    i will laugh so hard but at same time cry if all they did to PW is add rage if not killed in 2hrs

  7. #207
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    rage time...

    why is it people think all they going to do is add rage timers? i mean it was in the news we are getting more then a 2hr rage time. i do not even think they are going to add any rang to them.

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    man..man dont do dat man..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarega View Post
    Yeah that extra accuracy and attack would really break nin.
    Our grand ability to attack, throw, evade, cast game breaking enfeebles and block enemy attacks with our weapons is insane. Any change to ninja would obviously break the game, sorry man

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    Don't forget the DD ability with Sange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    why is it people think all they going to do is add rage timers? i mean it was in the news we are getting more then a 2hr rage time. i do not even think they are going to add any rang to them.
    Because even though this appears to be an awesome update, SE still has to uphold the tradition of putting in a "Fuck you" feature to piss off people. ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by terranova View Post
    Because even though this appears to be an awesome update, SE still has to uphold the tradition of putting in a "Fuck you" feature to piss off people. ;p
    My money is on them making HQ staves obsolete and thus worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terranova View Post
    Because even though this appears to be an awesome update, SE still has to uphold the tradition of putting in a "Fuck you" feature to piss off people. ;p
    the "fuck you" is going to be yet again no avatars... 3 years latter. to me thats a "fuck you" every update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRichie View Post
    My money is on them making HQ staves obsolete and thus worthless.
    That isn't too bad. If they replace it with another high level synth-able staff, its rejoice Woodworkers (I for one)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    That isn't too bad. If they replace it with another high level synth-able staff, its rejoice Woodworkers (I for one)
    Y'know, I wouldn't be surprised. I'd consider it a "Fuck you!" simply because I just finished buying the main HQ staves I need for RDM, so of course they're going to release something better!

  16. #216
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    Well, guess I get to find out about floor 100 droprates myself... we tried to get 100 win on my disc today, but not all our normal members were there (Sunday instead of Monday so some couldn't be there), and we had to exit on 98. Capricious Cassie and Dahaks on a Kill All floor >.>

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    I hope something about avatars is mentioned in this update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaachaQ View Post
    Well, guess I get to find out about floor 100 droprates myself... we tried to get 100 win on my disc today, but not all our normal members were there (Sunday instead of Monday so some couldn't be there), and we had to exit on 98. Capricious Cassie and Dahaks on a Kill All floor >.>
    Never forgot your Poison potions for 100 farming. We pretty much expect to see cassie at some point on our runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    That isn't too bad. If they replace it with another high level synth-able staff, its rejoice Woodworkers (I for one)
    This right here.. would be the greatest update ever.

    God, how much I wish this would happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    why is it people think all they going to do is add rage timers? i mean it was in the news we are getting more then a 2hr rage time. i do not even think they are going to add any rang to them.
    Oh, welcome to our Universe. Obviously you are a traveler from a parallel universe where Square doesn't fix problems by creating new problems. Like when they they finally made Ullikummi pop with Diorite, but left a huge bottleneck with Despot that the RMT Horde exploited.

    What's it like there? Are the skies yellow with a blue sun?

    P.S. Happy Patch Day everyone. May the new items be plentiful and awesome.

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