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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    I'll be the first to be lazy and ask what time this is in GMT
    Should be 4PM GMT start time.

  2. #62
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    Thank god it's not delayed like the Harry Potter movie

    HIGH FIVE

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belkin View Post
    Thank god it's not delayed like the Harry Potter movie

    HIGH FIVE
    That movie will be out by the time the update finishes downloading, you know.

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackrose View Post
    Until the SAMs come in and go

    http://bp2.blogger.com/_mYcamCdxMTA/...rtrekwtf-1.jpg

    No complaints here, just saying prepare for the inevitable shit storm.
    Speaking as a Sam I wouldn't complain as long as the ability (auto-regain or whatever it might be) is 40+. Let's be honest here, there's not much of a need for it pre-40, but it would make a huge difference for them at the higher levels.

    Also, I was advocating that Dnc should get a sekkanoki type ability before they gave it Sam instead.

  5. #65
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    Auto-regain may be too powerful for Sams. Auto-regain to 100% TP would be nice and not break the job.

  6. #66
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    Noone is talking about AutoRegain for SAM :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    Should be 4PM GMT start time.
    thx for another cancelled Xarc where I'm first for RDM hat

  8. #68
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    I'm thinking for auto-regain to be really usefull for dnc it's going to have to be a fairly high rate 5-10% a tick or so, possibly more if you are having to spam Curing Waltz IV. If you have access to that kind of tp restoration at subjob levels then you just broke the game.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eruantalon View Post
    Auto-regain may be too powerful for Sams. Auto-regain to 100% TP would be nice and not break the job.
    Regain I (2%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 15

    Regain II (4%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 30

    Regain III (6%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 45

    Regain IV (8%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 60

    Regain V (10%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 75


  10. #70
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    Depending what the regain value is, it may be entirely useless for Samurai. If you look at the difference between refresh (including a drink) and auto-refresh, the job traits are always weaker. For a Samurai to get any benefit while meleeing, the auto-regain would have to be a minimum of +3/tick (and this would only give a benefit when your swing timer matched up correctly with the tick timer). More realistically, the Samurai would need a +4/tick regain to make use of it. Anything less is just going to be .0x more fTP modifier, and not really worth it.

    Giving a 1tp/tick auto-regain to dancer at lower lvls would, if anything, make it a much stronger sub for all sorts of solos, as well as a 2nd option for melee that are standing back and just using /sam to meditate in a tp-restriction setup. Giving 5 tp/tick seems a little bit broken to me, but who knows.

    I'm all for dancers getting regain, but I think it needs to be a reasonable value, and not one that suddenly gives dancers the ability to out-damage other melee with WS spam.

  11. #71
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    SOCOM: Confrontation's Beta begins on Monday as well, at least I won't have FF bothering me while I shoot me some terrorists. : )

  12. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaun View Post
    I'm thinking for auto-regain to be really usefull for dnc it's going to have to be a fairly high rate 5-10% a tick or so, possibly more if you are having to spam Curing Waltz IV. If you have access to that kind of tp restoration at subjob levels then you just broke the game.
    Im not that familiar with how dnc works but with such a strong regain this would probably bring about dnc's subing whm and being backline jobs or something stupid like that XD which isnt what SE wants, the regain would have to be fairly minimal.

  13. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by phrost View Post
    Regain I (2%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 15

    Regain II (4%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 30

    Regain III (6%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 45

    Regain IV (8%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 60

    Regain V (10%/tic)
    Gradually increases your TP over time.
    Job Traits are always active.
    Obtained: Dancer Level 75

    As a Sam, I really think it needs to start about 37. If it's subbable, others Sams will use it, abuse it, and people will bitch. SE will overreact and not only end up moving it to 38+ anyways, they'll nerf YGK again just for shits and giggles.

  14. #74
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    Looks like playonline getting server maintenance too in the same time frame as FFXI, probably means no early updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Sweet, just in time to make our Tuesday Limbus 15k.
    That is, if you can log in by Tuesday. /knockonwood

  16. #76
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    I was gonna say ... "I'll be on my own private server! yay!"

    But then I realised, that "Play" button will be greyed out.



    Actually, if I logon to the private server before the game shuts down, then perhaps I can still be on it, providing I don't crash it ...

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    Auto-Regain would have to be >37 DNC IMO

  18. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe View Post
    As a Sam, I really think it needs to start about 37. If it's subbable, others Sams will use it, abuse it, and people will bitch. SE will overreact and not only end up moving it to 38+ anyways, they'll nerf YGK again just for shits and giggles.
    What he said. Start it off with Regain III at 38-40, then you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheStig View Post
    I was gonna say ... "I'll be on my own private server! yay!"

    But then I realised, that "Play" button will be greyed out.



    Actually, if I logon to the private server before the game shuts down, then perhaps I can still be on it, providing I don't crash it ...
    Got that running yesterday. Aerial shots of Mt.Z are awesome.

  20. #80
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    Damn I was hoping they were gonna release the tier2 en-spells and new wyvern breaths.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNcSx4sNL2M This update is noteworthy for it's suspicious lack of job adjustments in the update announcments...unprecidented

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