Version Update Details (9/8/08)

[DancingEdge]

The 172.16.53.113 address is an SE address?

Someone from my LS posted it on our forums and I was very suspect of it, noscripted it up before I even clicked it because it did not match the link on the FFXI main web page when I went there.

[layoneil]

Hmmmm this all looks nice but.... to ask...

"Where is the actual content?"


All the things added seem like an adjustment of older grinds. I will log on and do new cityquests. Then.... I will... ummm.... work on mystic weapon by doign Einherjar n Salvage? Like I did for the last year anyway?

they probably consider campaign changes content. but who knows if the new NMs will be worth killing.

and new weapon skill quests is new content depending on how time consuming they are. it's not like every patch adds something like ZNM/Einherjar/Salvage.

[TT]

New battlefield for the final mythic weapon quest. Fight with Balrahn? Could have much potentiel.

[Damen]

Thanks for that english lesson.

Who says SE thinks reducing alexandrite droprate is a negative consequence? The point is, because if the reduced requirements, droprates are being changed. Think of it in RL terms.

"Minimum wage has been increased. Consequently tax rate will be adjusted."

What's your first thought when you read that? Also, this is SE we're talking about.

Consequently tax rate will be adjusted by definition just means that it's being adjusted (either raised or decreased) because of the minimum wage increase. Majority of people have a negative cognition to the word "Consequence" but that's also very incorrect. The word simply means it can be a good or bad adjustment. It's just most of us are predispositioned to think of the word as negative, but from a foreign translation it's actually a proper word for positive adjustments too.

[Sho]

AF Feet reduce casting time and recast time of the arts you are in, what does that have to do with Stratagems?

It's the fact that "Stratagems" are Grimiore Books (or at least pages within them) themselves... why didn't anyone get it? lol Arts just flips the different selections of Grimiores one uses. Merit Grimiore, then the recasts for each Strategem should go down, I'm certain.

EDIT

Forget what I said, I'ma nooblet atm.

[EternalSnow]

No need to pray dude. Grimoire = Stategems. Every SCH should know this if they have AF Feet.

Every sch knows that the af feet applies if your in light or Dark arts. <,<

[Vandalhart]

seems like a fun update, but the meat of it is the lv sync feature. I hope everything scales correctly

Level Sync (and all the low-level changes): to SE for lowering the entry bar for low-level players.

lvl down is own.

I have a bad feeling about the picture for the Level Synch Status window.
It isn't showing a sub job in there.

[Kurgan]

The 172.16.53.113 address is an SE address?

Someone from my LS posted it on our forums and I was very suspect of it, noscripted it up before I even clicked it because it did not match the link on the FFXI main web page when I went there.

It's a private address, usually for internal use only. It means this is the internal address of the server behind the firewall. They forgot to change the internal IP address to www.playonline.com in the link so it could be globally accessible.

[Kenji]

Level Sync only affects people in your party, not the entire alliance. So you'd have to waste 3 spaces in your alliance, or manage to have party leaders alive to invite these people. Exp isn't THAT hard to get >.>

Edit: and no, according to the update notes, applying Level Sync is instant; it's only taking it off that has a 30 second delay.

Only in certain circumstances. Requoting the relevant bits:

The following conditions will cause Level Sync to disengage automatically, for either all or individual party members.

* The party leader disbands the party.
* The designee leaves the party.
* The party leader or designee leaves the area.
* You leave the Level Sync party.

Soon as you drop from the group, your level instantly returns to normal.

And yeah, I agree with you about the easy-to-get-xp thing. Just pointing out how it could be used. I'm sure the playerbase will find some ways to abuse this.

Edit: On second thought, I may be reading this wrong. At first it sounded like an instant thing in certain circumstances, but that "automatically" thing could just be the start of the 30 seconds happening. Treating this as just speculation for the moment. We'll know in a few hours.

[shalarim]

I think I understand what he's saying, but it's not really needed. The same thing happens with PLs. Once a PL has enough hate, he tanks while the party beats on it.

The only change, then, is getting the PL back in the party to get xp when the mob is about to die, ie...

Leader sets level to his, which is 25.
PLD gets hate, then disbands, and instantly becomes 75. He's now tanking a lv30+ mob as a 75.
Party beats down mob til 10% HP is left.
PLD is invited back
Mob is killed, and PLD gets full xp for it, since he became 25 the instant he rejoined.

Seems a bit of a hassle, and I'm sure SE might have put some other safeguard in there. For instance, if the PLD provoked the mob as a Lv25, and thus took an offensive action on it, and then disbands to rise back to 75, it might destroy the xp on the mob.

When the pld drops with hate, he'll take the mob with him and the party won't be able to beat on it.

[Mafai]

When the pld drops with hate, he'll take the mob with him and the party won't be able to beat on it.

you can have hate but not claim.

[Attila]

Regarding Nyzul Progress:

That word "uncharted" gives me a real nasty feeling. It sounds as if:

Leader = Floor 80
Person A = Floor 0
Person B = Floor 0
Person C = Floor 50
etc.

Leader climbs from 80-85, then it appears:
Leader = Floor 85
Person A = Floor 0
Person B = Floor 0
Person C = Floor 50

I think it's possible people will still have to climb to an extent, and not just leech, but only it only updates the increments of the leader's disc. Bumping people from Floor 0 to 85 would be a bit unfair in any case, but still..

I bet it's more this.

For some reason, I'm underwhelmed, but I don't know why lol. ah well, don't know what I was expecting x.x

[Cadsuane]

you can have hate but not claim.

The mob would be red to the PLD, purple to the PT.

[evilpaul]

Mandragora counter attack weren't as annoying as dream flower for parties. That's probably what they're going to swipe off them.

Leaf dagger not killing people with poison would fit with the other three types of mobs.

[Dakota]

nvm

[Vanostek]

Adjustments have been made to Jailer of Love, Absolute Virtue (and pets), and Pandemonium Warden (and pets) in areas such as HP value and behavior. Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden will now vanish two hours after their appearance, automatically ending the battle. In addition, the spawn rate for Absolute Virtue has been increased to 100%.

Is this a cop out from SE? They are afraid of future litigation regarding players damaging their health during 16 hour fights with Pandemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue. Rather than making the monster more sensible to kill they just penalize us with making it disappear after 2 hours. Maybe the update notes are incomplete or mistranslated from the Japanese notes? I don't know. But it would be a nice surprise to find out that AV and PW have been altered so that they are commonly killable in the 2 hour time frame without resorting to a horde of DRKs. It would be even more surprising to find out that after holding them for 2 hours, they disappear, yet items from them appear in the loot pool! That's kind of a stretch and maybe we don't want that to be possible since it completely decreases the rarity value of the items.

[Hyan]

Read the first phrase again. "AV hp and behaviour adjusted".

[Gwynplaine]

Meh. Like someone said earlier where's the bloody content. The new quests, ws quests sound fun but that's like it. Hopefully the Stronghold NM battle is doable with 6 and not obscenely difficult or a pain in the ass. It could be fun. Maybe going over all of the equipment to balance in level sync took up their time or something.

[Izzy]

The SMN in me REALLY wants that staff....

I'll probley be a lazy WHM and just get the club so I can only cast paralyna/erase once Q_Q

Did the math on the DPS for Yagrush....Perdu Wand crushes it lol.

[Eticket]

Is this a cop out from SE? They are afraid of future litigation regarding players damaging their health during 16 hour fights with Pandemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue. Rather than making the monster more sensible to kill they just penalize us with making it disappear after 2 hours. Maybe the update notes are incomplete or mistranslated from the Japanese notes? I don't know. But it would be a nice surprise to find out that AV and PW have been altered so that they are commonly killable in the 2 hour time frame without resorting to a horde of DRKs. It would be even more surprising to find out that after holding them for 2 hours, they disappear, yet items from them appear in the loot pool! That's kind of a stretch and maybe we don't want that to be possible since it completely decreases the rarity value of the items.

Imagine a boy of about 6 years old. We'll call him Tommy. Tommy's dad gives him a ball to play with, one of those big red rubber ones kids play kickball with.

Tommy can't really handle the ball well. He can roll it around but that's about it. A bit later his dad checks up on him.

Dad: How's the ball going Tommy?

Tommy: Ok, but I can't really do anything with it.

Dad: Have you tried throwing it?

Tommy: How do you do that?

Dad: Let me show you. *he takes the ball and casually bounces it off the wall back to Tommy*

Tommy: Wow that's cool. *tries throwing the ball but it slips out of his hands*

Dad: No no, not like that, here. *picks up the ball and bounces it again* Do it like I did.

Tommy: Ok *hauls back and throws the ball at the wall as hard as he can, it bounces off at hits him square in the face, knocking him down and bloodying his nose*

Dad: No no, not like that. Here, just play with this instead. *hands Tommy a nerf ball and takes the red one away* Oh, and I'm taking that back in two hours. Have fun!