Version Update Details (9/8/08)

[Lordwafik]

Making light/dark arts 40 or 50 seconds doesn't seem too great for me, even though there are times I'd like it shorter.

Damnit to bits. I mixed up and thought they were talking about strategems. Meh in that case, I blame it on 3AM waiting for update notes of boring. Good night :s

[Toth]

All two? Grimoires are just Light Arts/Dark Arts, right?

Could this mean reduced timing on all spells as well ala AF feet or just Light and Arts recast?

[Lotan]

SCH will hopefully see improved Helix damage and more MP per sublimation.

I would assume the Sublimation improvement is % stored. I don't see any possible way they could do mp/tick. They're not going to give you 5 merits of that and let you get 8mp/tick.

[ronin sparthos]

Mandragora counter attack weren't as annoying as dream flower for parties. That's probably what they're going to swipe off them.

So if that is the case, they basically Lycopodium'd normal Mandragoras.

[Xanthe]

For those trying to download, you need to use Check Files from the POL menu before even logging in.

I also agree that Grimoire refers to Light/Dark Arts. Strategems are probably what you were thinking of LW.

[Spider-Dan]

So it looks like Call Beast is still going to be level-limited, but I didn't see them say anything about Repair.

The AV/PW solution was obvious, and called by many. Better to have players complaining about an unbeatable boss than to have them complaining of physical symptoms from day-long battles.

[Toth]

Damnit to bits. I mixed up and thought they were talking about strategems. Meh in that case, I blame it on 3AM waiting for update notes of boring. Good night :s

Since stratagems are part of the Grimoire, maybe they are included too. *prays*

[Solarus]

New text for Beast and Monster jackcoat(+1), other Monster gear, and PLD AF items. Revealing a hidden effect? Or just switching 'enhance' to 'augment'?

I have both items for the jackcoat upgrade - wonder if it's going to be worth it?

I assume it just means it's changing enhance to augment. Since (for PLD at least, don't know the BST one) it doesn't just increase the effect or duration, but adds a different effect.

As for the update... less epic than I was expecting maybe overall. Still, Level Synch and Dynamis fixes are enough to make it awesome.

Lol@AV/PW though. Either SE have totally backtracked on it's word (Sundi: AV is an 10+ hour fight lol), given up on their weird ideas with AV, and changed PW to like..2 forms (maybe a random form + the dvergr) then this sounds pretty stupid.

I'm holding out some hope that they make it just right for the good LSs to kill it in time, but the not so good LSs to fail... but seeing their gear in their video, I wouldn't count on it.

[Tsutsumiko]

All two? Grimoires are just Light Arts/Dark Arts, right?

Grimoires are the abilities like Penury, Celerity, etc if I'm not mistaken.

That would mean you'd have shortened recast on all your charges, allowing for tons of shenanigans.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: Nevermind that's stratagems. Damn fast thread is fast.

[Eldelphia]

Xarc is going to be hell >.<

New harvested items and recipes interest me as a crafter. Can't wait to see reports on JoL, AV and PW now.

Looking forward to Nyzul but annoyed about the tweaking hat drop rate lol. To be expected I guess.

[Lasareth]

I hope grimoire refers to strategems, since those are the only times you actually use the grimoire.

[Cutriss]

Take a few lv10 characters into Dynamis. If your'e about to wipe, quickly have these lv10 characters engage level sync. Everyone loses xp as if they were lv10. Proceed with R1 spam? Might be too much work for Dynamis, but there are probably other areas where this can be abused.

That'd be a cute trick if you could get Lv 10 characters into Dynamis.

Lv 65+ required.

Cutriss go back to sows :O

srsly I haven't seen you in forever.

Sounds like someone's forgetting the first two rules of Sows...

Ohshi-I might actually get recall shouts now instead of retrace!

Regarding the relics - Based on the wording, I'm guessing the "occasional double/triple/whatever damage" proc will still work, so you could probably offhand Mandau/Kikoku/Mjollnir/lolGuttler. The Aftermath and WS effects are probably what this is really referring to.

[Lordwafik]

*posts from bed*

Wrong Grimoire = light/dark arts only. The other ones are Strategems. I got confused out of excitement.

[Jones]

So it looks like Call Beast is still going to be level-limited, but I didn't see them say anything about Repair.

The AV/PW solution was obvious, and called by many. Better to have players complaining about an unbeatable boss than to have them complaining of physical symptoms from day-long battles.

I doubt they'll let an Automaton have a 30 HP/tic regen at lowered levels...but who knows. Maybe PUP will be the cause of an emergency updates. >.>; Something tells me they'll just require BST food, jugs and Auto oil to be under the lvl cap.

[Pykey]

Im pretty sure the pet thing means they will lower the pets in Aht urgan and WOTG. If they updated the old pets (nerf) there would be a looooot more names in there. And the new area pets have 100% hp instead of the old pets hp which made em easy to kill.

[ringthree]

No Relic WS dmg boost like they said?

The additional effects of relic and mythic weapons are now designated by a status effect icon.

Looks like they are adding an Aftermath effect to Relics too.

[Vedder]

Hey look on the bright side: if AV is made killable now, moar Ninurta Sash!

Is this where we LOL at Corwen? Or do we actually wait until AV goes down and word spreads like the secret to killing the Alien spaceships in Independence Day?

[Kimiko]

I think everyone old school from windy knows what this is about lol... How many times haven't you not died from Poison with your Lv 3-9 (or more) job while fighting around Saruta and such?

Might happen in other areas as well but, in Saruta this is so common, lol...

Or be hit with a full-powered slow that grinds you to a fucking halt.

[Daveys]

Looks like they are adding an Aftermath effect to Relics too.

I think that it just is showing a status icon for things like catastrophe haste and such

[Jkun]

Regarding Nyzul Progress:

That word "uncharted" gives me a real nasty feeling. It sounds as if:

Leader = Floor 80
Person A = Floor 0
Person B = Floor 0
Person C = Floor 50
etc.

Leader climbs from 80-85, then it appears:
Leader = Floor 85
Person A = Floor 5
Person B = Floor 5
Person C = Floor 55

I think it's possible people will still have to climb to an extent, and not just leech, but only it only updates the increments of the leader's disc. Bumping people from Floor 0 to 85 would be a bit unfair in any case, but still..