Data Mining Discussion

[Callisto]

If you were to use exca/burt, could you get the aftermath effect and the add'l effect together?

Either one only happens when mainhanded, so only one or the other.

[Amele]

Uhhh, thats Hagun Y/G/K FTP...

this new WS has damage varies with TP, meaning that what you said may be at 100 TP, but what's important is the scaling:

100TP: .5, 200TP: 1.0, 300TP: 1.5
100TP: .5, 200TP: .75, 300TP: 1.0
100TP: .75, 200TP: 1.5, 300TP: 2.25

It really depends on that layout. On the first, Hagun would still be a 20% increase in WS damage (exactly the same it is right now). On the 2nd, it would be 10%, on the 3rd it would actually be 27%.

Too soon to tell, this could be a buff, or a nerf to Hagun.

right, It was hagun's Y/G/K fTP.

the point you make is a good one, with the scaling; I had assumed that SE would not exceed +.25 at 200.

if it's something like 1.0 ; 1.25 ; 1.75 then hagun is merely an ~8% boost too, so it will really depend yes; I guess the point is, it's very promising.

and considering SE's dev team (not the PR team, the devs) have expressed regret at how dominant Hagun is, I think it's unlikely that they'll do an intentional buff. (they nerfed it once already and it didn't really change anything)

[Telamond]

I remember reading somewhere where SE said that the new WS could be quested even for those that didn't unlock the whole Aht Urghan relic, was I dreaming or was that actually something that was going to be available this update?

[Squeelch]

Yagrush
DMG:43 Delay:267
Magic Accuracy+10
Enhances "Divine Veil" effect
"Mystic Boon"
Aftermath: Increases Magic Acc./Acc.
Occasionally attacks twice
WHM

I don't get it.
Does it like...increase the range? That's all I can think of.
But it's pimpin none the less.

edit: nvm thanks for the replys

[Zonnashi]

/toss 180M Excalibur ?

I was wondering if anyone will go after Excalibur now.

[Reznap]

I remember reading somewhere where SE said that the new WS could be quested even for those that didn't unlock the whole Aht Urghan relic, was I dreaming or was that actually something that was going to be available this update?

you need to have the floor100 weapon to quest the new weapon skills.

[Zilong]

Yagrush
DMG:43 Delay:267
Magic Accuracy+10
Enhances "Divine Veil" effect
"Mystic Boon"
Aftermath: Increases Magic Acc./Acc.
Occasionally attacks twice
WHM

I don't get it.
Does it like...increase the range? That's all I can think of.
But it's pimpin none the less.

It turns Divine Veil from activated by Divine Seal to constant activation on status cure effects.

[sruon]

Yagrush
DMG:43 Delay:267
Magic Accuracy+10
Enhances "Divine Veil" effect
"Mystic Boon"
Aftermath: Increases Magic Acc./Acc.
Occasionally attacks twice
WHM

I don't get it.
Does it like...increase the range? That's all I can think of.
But it's pimpin none the less.

It has been presented few weeks(months?) ago, it gives a permanent divine veil.

[Callisto]

Yagrush
DMG:43 Delay:267
Magic Accuracy+10
Enhances "Divine Veil" effect
"Mystic Boon"
Aftermath: Increases Magic Acc./Acc.
Occasionally attacks twice
WHM

I don't get it.
Does it like...increase the range? That's all I can think of.
But it's pimpin none the less.

It makes it so that you get full time Divine Veil without using DS.

[EternalSnow]

Tupsimati
DMG:62 Delay:402
Same elemental magic as weather:
Enmity-20 Acc.+30 Magic Acc.+10
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+20 "Omniscience"
Aftermath: Inc. Mag. Acc./Mag. Atk.
Occasionally attacks twice.
SCH

My Gosh. I want this O.O

[kayn]

Does anyone else revel in the fact that they're making HNMs more and more useless?
Don't get me wrong. I actually enjoy claiming and fighting HNMs, but the the fact that their drops are no longer the "best of the best" warms my heart.

[Valkrish]

you need to have the floor100 weapon to quest the new weapon skills.

can also get nyzul weapon from any 20 40 60 80 floors now randomly too ^^b

just that the weapon that drops x2 from floor 100 is x1 guaranteed weapon of your job, and the other x1 weapon is random.

[Karbuncle]

Yagrush
DMG:43 Delay:267
Magic Accuracy+10
Enhances "Divine Veil" effect
"Mystic Boon"
Aftermath: Increases Magic Acc./Acc.
Occasionally attacks twice
WHM

I don't get it.
Does it like...increase the range? That's all I can think of.
But it's pimpin none the less.

Crap you guys are quick

[Gilthas]

It turns Divine Veil from activated by Divine Seal to constant activation on status cure effects.

Its just sad that the only way to fix Divine Veil is by upgrading a mystic weapon.

[miokomioko]

Yagrush
DMG:43 Delay:267
Magic Accuracy+10
Enhances "Divine Veil" effect
"Mystic Boon"
Aftermath: Increases Magic Acc./Acc.
Occasionally attacks twice
WHM

I don't get it.
Does it like...increase the range? That's all I can think of.
But it's pimpin none the less.

You must have been under a rock, this gives you perma-divine-veil.

jesus christ too many people reading this, I'm going to stop replying to posts...

[Telamond]

can also get nyzul weapon from any 20 40 60 80 floors now randomly too ^^b

just that the weapon that drops x2 from floor 100 is x1 guaranteed weapon of your job, and the other x1 weapon is random.

So I have the one for COR, SMN, BRD, RDM, WHM and SCH. Where do I go? They don't provide any of these info. >.<)b

[Robert]

I was wondering if anyone will go after Excalibur now.

do you see additional effect: damage proportionate to current HP on burtgang? i don't either.

[Appie]

You discussed it with me on Killing Ifrit, Spira.

We discussed about how stupid it was, but we also calmed down since it was just a trial version.
Now... we can't be 100% sure that this trait = delay-20 just because every other in the game is, but it sure is very likely for things to be that way.

I don't know what else to say. While I don't dislike such a bonus on the weapon (I mean, delay-20 is good after all), I'm just saying that it's plain stupid and they could have just reduced the delay to put a better bonus in there (enhance HP/MP for example, since those on the AF/AF+1 body are pretty useless, u'll hardly be wearing them full time and they those bonuses don't activate until you DO wear them full time).

The reason why PUP's H2H has enhance martial arts is quite simple: to spite monks XD

[FailureMidgard]

right, It was hagun's Y/G/K fTP.

the point you make is a good one, with the scaling; I had assumed that SE would not exceed +.25 at 200.

if it's something like 1.0 ; 1.25 ; 1.75 then hagun is merely an ~8% boost too, so it will really depend yes; I guess the point is, it's very promising.

and considering SE's dev team (not the PR team, the devs) have expressed regret at how dominant Hagun is, I think it's unlikely that they'll do an intentional buff. (they nerfed it once already and it didn't really change anything)

I think a more interesting question is if other TP Bonus weapons are going to become more desired with these WSes. There are quite a few "Damage Varies with TP" WSes in there.

Anyway, guess we get to see how this scaling works. ;p

[Faithe]

I hope none of those new shit are ex/rare.

I can just buy them right away.