Data Mining Discussion

[Kenji]

Nirvana is so hot. -4 Perpetuation...without aftermath? Increased Magic Attack?

So much better than the Claustrum. Which makes me wonder...how are they going to improve the Claustrum to be better than this?

Indeed. Bahamut's Staff just got owned. And I love how they made the aftermath effects include pets. The only problem is that you generally don't want a SMN melee'ing, obviously, so it's only nice for soloing. Still, the -4 perp is always in effect.

Remember, Relic weapons = bigger damage. Mythic Weapons = "enhance job". If they improve claustrum at all, it'll be increased damage.

Yagrush got a Spirit Taker in the form of a club. It seems like a decently good weapon.

BLU's weapon is hawt, as is PLD's. But lol at NIN's weapon. It's the only weapon to enhance a 2 hour ability, which means it won't come into play much. Possibilities: Doubles damage (at least), or doesn't actually kill the NIN when weak but functions like BLU Self-destruct. Or does a high amount of damage regardless of your HP?

[Daveys]

Headsman's Ring
Great Axe skill +3
LV65 All

a skill ring... where are the other weapons skill rings! Damn you SE! Those would be hot for leveling up.

[Waef]

Well, blu AF2 pretty much sucks. Body isn't half bad, head will be a tossup against volger skillet, although at the same time I'm kind of relieved that I won't have to be like "OMG MUST GET IT NOW AHH!!!!"

Also, AF+1 seems mostly meh, but body will definitely be nice. Head will be nice for certain times as well.

Edit:
At least blu can use this!

Gnadbhod's Helm
DEF:24 STR+6 DEX+4 Attack+8
Slow +5%
LV71 All

[Flight_93]

SE just shit all over Nussnacker.. ;;

[Guitarman]

Prester
DMG:58 Delay:366
Latent effect: Increases weapon
skill accuracy and damage
Additional effect: Wind damage
LV71 All Jobs

What on earth is this? Damage seems to high to be a ranged, yet all jobs? If it IS in fact ranged, could potentially be hot. I'd /toss my core in a heartbeat if the abilities are decent.

[Callisto]

Any WS text for Death Blossom found?

[Antithesis]

GOD DAM IT SE FUCKED OVER BARD ON CARNWHENHAN!

Stats are sorta nice for songs BUT DAM IT SHITTY MELEE STATS

Dmg: 29
No melee stats?

Fuck you SE I want my 4 hours back.

[Daveys]

Gnadbhod's Helm
DEF:24 STR+6 DEX+4 Attack+8
Slow +5%
LV71 All

New WS piece for just about every job.

Zha'Go's Barbut
DEF:23 Ranged Accuracy+8
Ranged Attack+8 Enmity-5
Enhances "Snapshot" effect
LV71 All

That is pretty damn hot head gear for RNG/COR/(SAM/RNG)

[Sunrider]

No +15 skill on BLU....

So fucking depressed, thanks for the fail Square -.-

That surprised me too.

Louhi's Mask
DEF:25
Daytime: Physical damage taken -3%
Nighttime: Magic damage taken -3%
LV69 WAR, RDM, PLD, DRK, BST, RNG, SAM, DRG, BLU

Interesting.. I dont play PLD but isn't that actually kinda kick ass; in a situational sense that is.

By itself, not really. Hexerei cape is a flat 3% reduction regardless of time, Umbra offers 6% reduction, doubled at night. None of these really make a difference on anything hitting you for less than 100 damage.

Mmmaybe in combination with other items(like Defengin ring, etc), it'd make some difference. Maybe.

But the mask in addition with maybe the

[Tan]

SE just shit all over Nussnacker.. ;;

Fuck Nussnacker.

[nekura]

They fixed in the Enmity- issue on Marduk legs, lol.

Also, COR AF1+1 made me :O~~~~. I really can't wait to see what the Augments Phantom Roll thing does, too.

[Jkun]

My thoughts on lolpup AF+1/Relic:

Body:

Pup. Tobe +1
DEF:37 HP+17
Accuracy+5 Attack+5
Automaton: Max HP and Max MP Bonus
Lv74 PUP

Crap unless you're using it for Magic Mortar build, of course.

Pantin Tobe
DEF:45 HP+15 Accuracy+10
"Subtle Blow"+5
Automaton: Accuracy+10
Lv74 PUP

Good contender to Palwuhan, Antares and Enkidu's. The Acc+ for the Automaton affects all frames as a bonus too.

Feet:

Pup. Babouches +1
DEF:12 HP+19 STR+5
Accuracy+5 Evasion+5
Enhances "Repair" effect
Lv74 PUP

Great WS and TP piece for people with no Usukane.

Pantin Babouches
DEF:17 HP+14 INT+2
MND+2 Attack+5
Automaton: "Magic Atk. Bonus"+5
Lv72 PUP

Crap unless you're using BLM head as a replacement BLM, then it's good!

Head:

Puppetry Taj +1
DEF:16 HP+15 DEX+5 VIT+5 MND+5
Automaton:
HP recovered while healing +3
MP recovered while healing +3
Lv74 PUP

Crap.

Pantin Taj
DEF:19 HP+12 STR+3 AGI+3
Adds "Regen" effect
Automaton: Adds "Regen" effect
Lv75 PUP

Good for idling/resting and WS, (Usukane Head still beats it, but it looks nicer than Voyager Sallet, which is the other "decent" STR head piece for PUPs.)

Hands:

Pup. Dastanas +1
DEF:13 HP+18 STR+5 AGI+5
Enhances "Maneuver" effects
Reduces "Overload" rate
Lv74 PUP

"Meh" WS piece compared to Enkidu's. Posibly good for surpressing Overload if it's an icnrease on the NQ. I'll test it.

Pantin Dastanas
DEF:18 HP+16 DEX+2 CHR+2 Haste+3%
Automaton: Haste+3%
Lv73 PUP

Great for TPing if you can cap Acc in other places, hopefully the Haste works on the automaton's spell recasts too.

Legs:

Pup. Churidars +1
Legs
Lv. 74
DEF:26 HP+16 DEX+5 CHR+5
Automaton: Enhances "Cure" potency
Spell interruption rate down

Crap. Unless you're main healing, but if that's the case what's your number so I can verbally deck your party's face in.

Pantin Churidars
Legs
Lv. 71
DEF:32 HP+13 STR+2 VIT+2
Accuracy+5
Automaton: Magic Accuracy+5

Overshadowd by Usukane once again in terms of TP/WS, but a nice TP piece for the +Acc, or an addition to BLM head's nuking mode alongside it's feet counterpart.

Back:

Pantin Cape
DEF:6 DEX+5 Attack+15
Automaton: Attack+15
LV70 PUP

I have a hardon right now just lookin at this thing. Ffffffffff DO WANT.

[Zilong]

Wouldn't "TP increases damage" makes hagun probably stronger than actual kogarasumaru on WS?

Not that I'm complaining, it just mean I get to abuse the power of the WS before even getting the mythic.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Gnadbhod's Helm
DEF:24 STR+6 DEX+4 Attack+8
Slow +5%
Lv71 All

Zha'Go's Barbut
DEF:23 Ranged Accuracy+8
Ranged Attack+8 Enmity-5
Enhances "Snapshot" effect
Lv71 All

Ree's Headgear
DEF:21 INT+2 MND+2 CHR+2
Magic Accuracy+2
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+2
Lv71 All


OMG x3

[Ramses]

Wow, I've held on to my death sickle for a year and a half to augment absorb spells?

[Jeryhn]

Indeed. Bahamut's Staff just got owned. And I love how they made the aftermath effects include pets. The only problem is that you generally don't want a SMN melee'ing, obviously, so it's only nice for soloing. Still, the -4 perp is always in effect

I wouldn't say Bahamut's Staff is owned.
Notice the lack of summoning skill on Nirvana.

Summoning skill would add more accuracy to the summoner's Bloodpacts. You trade off 1mp/tick vs. accuracy, and personally, I'm not bothered by the extra MP loss for an ensured accurate Bloodpact. The MAB bonus to avatars is also good, but only if you're using a Spirit for magic damage, one of the Merit Bloodpacts, Nether Blast, or for some reason you want to blow your wad and use Astral Flow.

If this weapon would have featured a form of Conserve MP on Bloodpacts rather than an extra -1 to perpetuation cost, I'd be far more impressed.

It's a decent enough weapon, yes. But only for Diabolos or long-term perpetuation situations, such as soloing anything EM or higher, the latter of which would get increasingly difficult if you want to try and proc the Aftermath effects.

[eva00r]

Nagi <- you wouldn't lose any HP with Mijin Gakure

I guess.

[Toth]

PUP got a phenomenal backpiece and great choices for AF+1 and AF2. SE did good

And BLU isn't that bad tbh. Refresh piece, more blue skill and breath damage on one head piece, and some good soloing stuff. BLU already had access to uber gear already XD

[Massimo]

Terror Shield
DEF:20 HP+20 Enmity+4
Campaign: Damage taken -10%
LV69 PLD, DRK

I could see potential.

EDIT:

To poster below me: Yes.

[Deader2818]

Zha'Go's Barbut
DEF:23 Ranged Accuracy+8
Ranged Attack+8 Enmity-5
Enhances "Snapshot" effect
Lv71 All


Is that a head piece?