Data Mining Discussion

[Sasarai]

BLU is permanently stuck with Blue Magic skilll + maybe STR for our equivalent to melee's attack. We need fucking skill or something creative.

Am I being whooshed here? What exactly is the difference between macro swapping between this for melee and AF (AF+1) body for spells? The complaint was that this didn't have +15 skill, but that's a bit of a moot point.

It's way more useful than most DDs AFv2 body pieces that's for sure.

[Blabj]

I demand to see what the Mirage Jubbah looks like. And what jobs is it?

[Kriz]

Mirror Tiara
DEF:20 Enmity-7
MP recovered while healing +3
Campaign: Magic damage taken -10%
Lv69 MNK, WHM, RDM, THF, PLD, BST, BRD, DRG, SMN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC

I like the looks of this for hMP and SCH -enmity rocking.

In fact, looks to be a few hMP additions

[Meat]

I demand to see what the Mirage Jubbah looks like. And what jobs is it?

huh

[Hyan]

BLU complaining that they didnt get +15 skill from xarc relic? ok.

[Vedder]

Comm. Tricorne
DEF:24 HP+10
Ranged Attack+8
Augments "Phantom Roll"

Comm. Tricorne +1
DEF:25 HP+12
Ranged Attack+10
Augments "Phantom Roll"

<3

Hopefully you don't need the job in the party!

If the Augments "Phantom Roll" effect increases the potency of rolls, these might just be the best items in this update. If it just increases the duration or something lame like then, then it will still be ok... but not amazing.

[nekura]

PUP got an Amemet Mantle +1 that they have to suffer through Dynamis for.

Sorry PUPs. XD

Also AF1+1 for COR didn't make any of shitty stat increases good (INT+ wtf?) which makes me sad, but they made the already good pieces REALLY good.

[miokomioko]

I demand to see what the Mirage Jubbah looks like. And what jobs is it?

holy shit

[Massimo]

I demand to see what the Mirage Jubbah looks like. And what jobs is it?

BLU AF2 <_<

[Antithesis]

a melee bard, apparently. (someone with only BRD @ 75)

There are a few Bard out there who know about the potential of Melee Bard and love playing with it (Of course only when the situation is proper we dont expect to do this in a merit pt or what not.)

Alot of us had high expectations on Carnwhenhan to be a good Melee Dagger. And SE just made Carnwhenhan into a debuffing dagger.

The damage is complete shit imo. 29? Seriosuly come on.

Oh well back to Mandau then.

[Rengar]

Burtgang
DMG:46 Delay:264 Enmity+10
Physical damage taken -10%
Reduces Enmity decrease when
taking physical damage. "Atonement"
Aftermath: Increases Acc./Atk.
Occasionally attacks twice
PLD

my poor Hauteclaire doesn't feel as great as before, but i'm really happy they didn't just remake Excalibur. thank you SE for a real tanking sword.

Now where is the new endgame Shield???

[Kenji]

I wouldn't say Bahamut's Staff is owned.
Notice the lack of summoning skill on Nirvana.

Summoning skill would add more accuracy to the summoner's Bloodpacts. You trade off 1mp/tick vs. accuracy, and personally, I'm not bothered by the extra MP loss for an ensured accurate Bloodpact. The MAB bonus to avatars is also good, but only if you're using a Spirit for magic damage, one of the Merit Bloodpacts, Nether Blast, or for some reason you want to blow your wad and use Astral Flow.

If this weapon would have featured a form of Conserve MP on Bloodpacts rather than an extra -1 to perpetuation cost, I'd be far more impressed.

It's a decent enough weapon, yes. But only for Diabolos or long-term perpetuation situations, such as soloing anything EM or higher, the latter of which would get increasingly difficult if you want to try and proc the Aftermath effects.

+5 summoning skill? Seriously? I suppose I should have expected any form of justification from people who already had one, but +5 SMN skill doesn't have that big of an impact. It's nice, yes, but an extra -1 perp, plus the ability to up your avatars damage fairly nicely beats it out, IMO. I'm interested to see what numbers I can put out now, with fully merited Avatar magic attack, fully merited Thunderstorm(or Netherblast), and this weapon.

Avatar magic pwnage > +5 smn skill. Bahamut's staff is still nice and easier to get(and thus why it's weaker), but if I had Nirvana, I wouldn't even macro it in at this point, except for perhaps a ward buff.

[Xaosykotik]

Blu AF2 sucks.....I guess it's what I expected but it's seriously next to useless if your blu already has current top gear. They could have at least tried to make it coexist with items already in existance...

[Thiefami]

I wouldn't say Bahamut's Staff is owned.
Notice the lack of summoning skill on Nirvana.

Summoning skill would add more accuracy to the summoner's Bloodpacts. You trade off 1mp/tick vs. accuracy, and personally, I'm not bothered by the extra MP loss for an ensured accurate Bloodpact. The MAB bonus to avatars is also good, but only if you're using a Spirit for magic damage, one of the Merit Bloodpacts, Nether Blast, or for some reason you want to blow your wad and use Astral Flow.

If this weapon would have featured a form of Conserve MP on Bloodpacts rather than an extra -1 to perpetuation cost, I'd be far more impressed.

It's a decent enough weapon, yes. But only for Diabolos or long-term perpetuation situations, such as soloing anything EM or higher, the latter of which would get increasingly difficult if you want to try and proc the Aftermath effects.

I personally do not miss that much where I feel the added summon skill is a must also you're never ensured or guaranteed your bp will land fully or not be resisted even with more summoning skill, Bahamut's staff is still nifty, but Nirvana is still great not only an extra perp but the aftermath is double attack you really can't beat that.

[Xanthu]

Mirror Tiara
DEF:20 Enmity-7
MP recovered while healing +3
Campaign: Magic damage taken -10%
Lv69 MNK, WHM, RDM, THF, PLD, BST, BRD, DRG, SMN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC

I like the looks of this for hMP and SCH -enmity rocking.

In fact, looks to be a few hMP additions

Read it again, look who's off the team on that one!

[Daveys]

Mythic Weapons quest info below

Spoiler: show

String Table Entry 00073 Coming Full Circle Client: Balrahn
(Nyzul Isle)
Summary:
"You must call upon the cemetery
in Caedarva Mire while bearing your
mythic weapon. Seek out the great
powers at rest there..."
But exactly to what end does the
great Balrahn intend to send you...? 3

Looks like mythic weapons end in a Maat style battle with Balrahn maybe?

[Varg]

Sorry PUPs. XD

Also AF1+1 for COR didn't make any of shitty stat increases good (INT+ wtf?) which makes me sad, but they made the already good pieces REALLY good.

Why sorry....we have a good back piece finally - so happy <.<

[Sasarai]

Blu AF2 sucks.....I guess it's what I expected but it's seriously next to useless if your blu already has current top gear. They could have at least tried to make it coexist with items already in existance...

Hi,

My name's AFv2. I'm easy to obtain, so I'm generally not as good as "current top gear".

Thanks.

[Sunrider]

Ree's Headgear
DEF:21 INT+2 MND+2 CHR+2
Magic Accuracy+2
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+2
Lv71 All

Why can't they ever do mage gear properly :/

That and magical Mythic weapons.

They just fail when it comes to magical jobs, period.

If it's not a DD, they don't know how to handle it.

[Toth]

Sorry PUPs. XD

Also AF1+1 for COR didn't make any of shitty stat increases good (INT+ wtf?) which makes me sad, but they made the already good pieces REALLY good.

Anemet Mantle+1 does not add automaton attack +15. That alone makes the cape. The DEX and attack are just icing.