Data Mining Discussion

[dithera686]

So wait what's with these earrings? Not seeing matches to their sets
Paramount Earring
Set: Increases HP, VIT,
Accuracy, Ranged Accuracy
LV69 all

Brilliant Earring
Set: Increases Evasion and
HP recovered while healing
Reduces Enmity
LV 69 All
Also how are people getting the info it's not even letting me connect to pol

[Tricen]

I like the macro piece for convert. Ganna be worth the effort for, TOTALLY!

[Callisto]

Even then there's Blue Cotehardie+1 which doubles as a MP set piece. Definitely doing Feet first then Head, both are WTFPWN.

[Sechs]

Can anybody please explain to me the meaning of:

"Kenkonken
DMG:+17 Delay:+49
Enhances "Martial Arts" effect"

What's the meaning of this all?
Well at least they powered up the Overload thingy, at least that... But I really don't understand the meaning of what I posted -_-


Oh and question, are Salvage sets still limited to the jobs who can currently equip them? I.e. no SCH and DNC yet? (I saw the Marduk pants got updated with an enmity -4 bonus)

[miokomioko]

So wait what's with these earrings? Not seeing matches to their sets
Paramount Earring
Set: Increases HP, VIT,
Accuracy, Ranged Accuracy
LV69 all

Brilliant Earring
Set: Increases Evasion and
HP recovered while healing
Reduces Enmity
LV 69 All
Also how are people getting the info it's not even letting me connect to pol

I imagine the set pieces are the weapons that have the exact same SET stats...

[Sechs]

So wait what's with these earrings? Not seeing matches to their sets
Paramount Earring
Set: Increases HP, VIT,
Accuracy, Ranged Accuracy
LV69 all

Brilliant Earring
Set: Increases Evasion and
HP recovered while healing
Reduces Enmity
LV 69 All
Also how are people getting the info it's not even letting me connect to pol

If I'm not wrong they match with some weapon/strap/ammo

[Mikayla]

I don't have much to say and I haven't really looked through alot of the other armor, but the Corsair AF2 set as a whole really disappoints me. The only piece I can see me using is head. Depending on how much that body piece adjusts random deal I dont see me carrying around another piece for a 20 min JA.

I really can't agree with you more on this. I was kind of impressed with the AF1+1 though, although the feet make me want to rage after having spent so much time back when upgrading full Skadi. The +1 AF hat is pretty hot too, definitely a nice upgrade. But the AF2 as a whole is just kind of blah.

[Callisto]

Can anybody please explain to me the meaning of:

"Kenkonken
DMG:+17 Delay:+49
Enhances "Martial Arts" effect"

What's the meaning of this all?
Well at least they powered up the Overload thingy, at least that... But I really don't understand the meaning of what I posted -_-

I'm assuming it means they're buffing the strength of the JT Martial Arts, iirc it reduces H2H delay(not a MNK or PUP).

[Falisa]

I really can't agree with you more on this. I was kind of impressed with the AF1+1 though, although the feet make me want to rage after having spent so much time back when upgrading full Skadi. The +1 AF hat is pretty hot too, definitely a nice upgrade. But the AF2 as a whole is just kind of blah.

Yeah... I really wanted skadi feet for COR for its stats, but now the only reason for skadi is the +movement. AF+1 head and feet are hawtsex. >.<

[Ksandra]

Nirvana is a definite win~ So glad since rdm is lolfail and made me sad. Can't wait to see how much it'd cost though

[Ashira]

Nirvana > Bahamut's. Period.

Those with Bahamut's and Nirvana will now be stuffing Bahamut into Storage, Manaquin, or using it for BP:Ward.

Its NOTHING like Argueing a Bomb Ring Vs. Snipers, Seriously, Your just being Moronic now.

Magical Blood pacts are useful, in many many Situations, And a fully Merited one (Now with 5 Merits being able to be put on it, 200% From the Get go) is absolutely amazing.

Really, Stop fucking Complaining, Nirvana Is amazing, and your just trying to find a way to complain!

ARGH, Seriously, You can't be a real Summoner, Wtf were you expecting? GRAND SUMMON?!

Don't forget to carry the Baha Staff for summoning spirits faster, duh. ;D

I still don't have Baha's either, we can't ever seem to organize a run - and I won't be going for Nirvana first (..lol?), though it's way tempting. I've had my heart set on Yagrush, and I will NOT be swayed! It may take me years! etc.

But god, the SMN and SAM piece both are so yummy.

[Callisto]

I really can't agree with you more on this. I was kind of impressed with the AF1+1 though, although the feet make me want to rage after having spent so much time back when upgrading full Skadi. The +1 AF hat is pretty hot too, definitely a nice upgrade. But the AF2 as a whole is just kind of blah.

I assumed it'd be like this, tbh if they added something that topped shit that was already in the game like Crimson/Denali/Skadi/Paluwhan it'd be somewhat broken shit, and COR is already pressing pretty far into RNG's territory.

[Jeryhn]

Really, Stop fucking Complaining, Nirvana Is amazing, and your just trying to find a way to complain!

I'm not QQing about Nirvana. It is a great weapon.

But Bahamut's Staff is far from being trash, even to a summoner with Nirvana, and that is the point I'm trying to make. Summoners who toss it aside or mannequin it will only be doing themselves a disservice.

Most of my argument comes from the fact that I don't really see how Nirvana is helping me, when I want to use Predator Claws, which is still by and large the most useful offensive Bloodpact overall. I'm not saying its useless, I'm saying shit is situational.

[miokomioko]

I can't believe I'm saying this in Advanced but... Yes. Martial Arts is a job trait that reduces your melee attack delay when using hand-to-hand weapons (or no weapon).

[Alistaire]

(about blu af2 hat)Worth tossing 9-10 acc? we don't know that yet.

Think /thf.

[Mikayla]

Yeah... I really wanted skadi feet for COR for its stats, but now the only reason for skadi is the +movement. AF+1 head and feet are hawtsex. >.<

Luckily they didn't do anything to lessen the usefulness of the body, legs and hands. Although the Commodore's Belt completely blowing away the Buccaneer's Belt was something I didn't really see coming either.

[Sechs]

I'm assuming it means they're buffing the strength of the JT Martial Arts, iirc it reduces H2H delay(not a MNK or PUP).

You got me wrong, I was being sarcastic.
As far as the current itemization goes, the "Enhances Martial Arts" job trait is just a Delay-20. Just like every "Martial Arts" job trait from II to the last one, VI (excluding the Martial Arts I, which is delay -80).

So... supposing that too is -20, what is the meaning of creating a weapon with Delay 49 and then "delay -20" as bonus? Doesn't that sound as a wasted "space" which could have been replaced with another more useful bonus?

We could hypothize that they made it that way because the bonus is not -20, but say -60, which is more than the delay, and they cannot create a weapon with -11 Delay. This could be it, but this would mean giving PUP more Martial Arts than a MNK has, potentially up to Martial Arts VII. This too seems pretty illogical and unlikely, since they never wanted or dared to let PUP get into MNK's world (see Asuran Fists, or the H2H preposterous skill level etc).


So, I can't think of any good reason to put that Delay -20 among the weapon's bonuses, unless I'm totally wrong and it's not a delay enhancement but something else.
But if this is the case, what could it be?



(oh, and is it just me or they raised Glanzfaust's base damage compared to the pre-stats available before this patch?)

[Callisto]

I can't believe I'm saying this in Advanced but... Yes. Martial Arts is a job trait that reduces your melee attack delay when using hand-to-hand weapons (or no weapon).

Thanks, lol. I'm level 1 on both jobs and was fairly certain but not 100%.

[Mikayla]

I'm not QQing about Nirvana. It is a great weapon.

But Bahamut's Staff is far from being trash, even to a summoner with Nirvana, and that is the point I'm trying to make. Summoners who toss it aside or mannequin it will only be doing themselves a disservice.

I kind of have to agree with this, as wtfamazing as the Nirvana is, it doesn't turn Bahamut's Staff into total trash.

[nekura]

Luckily they didn't do anything to lessen the usefulness of the body, legs and hands. Although the Commodore's Belt completely blowing away the Buccaneer's Belt was something I didn't really see coming either.

Yeah if I saw that one coming I would've gotten Morgana's Choker or Ritter Gorget instead of Buccaneer's Belt. ><; Really looking forward to seeing what Augments Phantom Roll does, if it's the job bonus thing then hell yeah.