Absolute Virtue ~ 9/8/08

[Dakota]

yes, seen multiple call wyverns, chainspells, and manafonts

[HadesChubbs]

seen 2 chainspells, like 4-5 call wyverns, 3 blood weapons, 2 manafonts, and 3 soul voice

the 2hrs that were in teh same fight were callwyvern, blood weapon, and soulvoice

[Deftscythe]

seen 2 chainspells, like 4-5 call wyverns, 3 blood weapons, 2 manafonts, and 3 soul voice

the 2hrs that were in teh same fight were callwyvern, blood weapon, and soulvoice

Didn't it Bene like 3 times? Just going by what I've seen in the thread.

[HadesChubbs]

Didn't it Bene like 3 times? Just going by what I've seen in the thread.

Oh yah that too, diff fights tho whoops

[Severance]

Probabaly irrelevant:

Hundred Fists and Mighty Strikes appear in the chat log differently to Chainspell, Manafont, Blood Weapon or Soul Voice.

[Virtuous Saint]

'readies' isn't reactionary, and don't you think if it was a bug they would fix it? considering the fact that it is seen in the SE dev video?? also 'Absolute Virtue readies Blood Weapon' was done after I casted element of day on AV and had flee up and ran, no 'reaction' and i was certainly the only person in pt with claim, solo ect. there is also the fact of the animation difference.

[HadesChubbs]

lived thru manafont from running out during cast, then back in to cure.. hmm...

[blev]

well, i was @ Excellence AV fight playing w/ local Aerns. killed MNK mob, and right as BLM aern repops in his place, he uses manafont and starts spamming meteor. possible this is no coincidence?

[Therin]

well, i was @ Excellence AV fight playing w/ local Aerns. killed MNK mob, and right as BLM aern repops in his place, he uses manafont and starts spamming meteor. possible this is no coincidence?

Here we go again!

[Stanislav]

We poped it again on Earthday.. regen is back to insane pre-patch even with nuking Earth spells on it.

Pretty sure we are giving up because I don't see anything changed aside from JOL and the new timer.

Atleast with 100% spawn rate more testing will be done.

I will say one thing, Wynavs are no longer an issue =)

[Apelila]

Wynavs go now down like catholic choir boys? Good to know.

[HadesChubbs]

well, i was @ Excellence AV fight playing w/ local Aerns. killed MNK mob, and right as BLM aern repops in his place, he uses manafont and starts spamming meteor. possible this is no coincidence?

hate u...

[Mojo]

The wynavs were really easy, it's quite a relief. I'll post some more of my thoughts tomorrow but I'm probably going to sleep now.

[Rafleshia]

I also highly doubt the BLM Aern has anything to do with AV, woo repop.

[Mega]

Can we just lock this now, I dont see anything worthwhile being added but 20 pages of "holy shit guys did you WS on this element before it "readied" a 2 hour on lightsday facing the new moon".

Excellence can make a post with SSs of logs of info, and people can test on their own. I dont think I can stand another pointless AV speculation thread.

Quote x10000000000

Please.

[KainHighwind]

Going along with some of the "facts" like JoL and AV being directly related and the day/nuke factor, do you think perhaps JoL being killed in the form that matches the day could show a change in behavior? (for example, if casting Bio and absorbing Dark spells and is killed on darksday)

I dont know how this would work, but i figured i would throw the idea out, i love AV threads cause some of the ideas people are coming up with are so creative i wish they were the real answer and not whatever this phantom solution is.

[Jeryhn]

In response to the whole AV drama, you know, before we grab our torches and pitchforks, did anyone stop and think maybe its a bug that JOL and AV are on the same timer?

I'm not entirely too sure about this. Ever since SE has been releasing info about JoL or AV, they've said the two mobs are connected. Regen was the first notable thing, of course. I'm not surprised that the two would be connected on a timer either, but there's a great way to test it out: Pop a JoL and see if it depops after two hours of being active.

Perhaps that's where our problem has been all along - in the idea that JoL and AV are two completely separate mobs. Maybe whatever we're supposed to be doing to AV as preventative measures against it's power to skullfuck us is supposed to be done in the JoL stage, not the AV stage.

Course, here we go with the theories and shit again.

[Dakota]

I'm not entirely too sure about this. Ever since SE has been releasing info about JoL or AV, they've said the two mobs are connected. Regen was the first notable thing, of course. I'm not surprised that the two would be connected on a timer either, but there's a great way to test it out: Pop a JoL and see if it depops after two hours of being active.

Perhaps that's where our problem has been all along - in the idea that JoL and AV are two completely separate mobs. Maybe whatever we're supposed to be doing to AV as preventative measures against it's power to skullfuck us is supposed to be done in the JoL stage, not the AV stage.

Course, here we go with the theories and shit again.

That is definitely a very plausible theory. I'm sure everyone would be kicking themselves in the ass if that was the case. However, I'm sure it's been tried along with everything else.

[Penthesilea]

Maybe nullify AV's 2hrs by using 2-hrs when JoL does his 2-HR animations? Was there ever a message when JoL does that animation? Then again, I haven't played in sea in over a year and a half.

[Ophannus]

Why couldn't SE have just been logical and made AV weak to the damn Jailer Weapons when they made him in 2005. It would have made a shitload more sense and we'd all have Ninurta Sashes by now Q_Q