Absolute Virtue ~ 9/8/08

[ByeByeTasai]

That's kind of what I was thinking, I've sac held AV for testing before and it seemed like he never did anything really until damage was dealt to him, or he was out for X amount of time. And even then he always opened up with either Perfect Dodge or Call Wyvern. I remember even shadowbinding him shortly after pop to try to pull him (edit)towards SLD and, he never attempted to cast on me. He just stood there while I ran out of range, which goes against most AI in the game.
So I really think something in the S.E. video shows a way to calm him back down. Maybe the original lengthy fight was intended for you to cut regen, damage him a bit, then gentle him back down(2hr spam?). repeat, rinse, then spit at your screen.

Is it safe to assume yet that the rings are 100%? or has someone not gotten them to drop...

[Kaeko]

Is it safe to assume yet that the rings are 100%? or has someone not gotten them to drop...

We did not get Minerva's Ring on 1 of our kills. 8/9 on that one, 9/9 on the rod and the other 2 rings. Someone here said they didn't get rod though. Seems like just really high drop rate.

Mar's Rings for all!

Sash actually isn't most rare. GKT > Aureole > Sash > other 4 for rarity I think.

[ByeByeTasai]

My bad, I knew Minerva's didn't always drop. I meant 100% on Mar's Bellona's. It seems that even in the old school glitch kills he dropped those every time.

[ringthree]

Yes, the STR on the Futsuno outweighs the 4 extra base damage of Amano. After an LS member got it we tested it out with Gekko on level ~10 mobs. Futsuno would do about 80 more damage with 300 TP and we had the exact same visible +STR.

He let me use it after that on JoL and Gekko was doing 1200+ every time with 300 TP, 1305 was my best, no double attacks in any of the WSes. With Amano, the most I did with no double attack and 300 TP was 1183, usually did ~1100.

This does not mean that Futsuno is better than Amano, just that its Gekko is stronger.

[Kaeko]

My bad, I knew Minerva's didn't always drop. I meant 100% on Mar's Bellona's. It seems that even in the old school glitch kills he dropped those every time.

Except the very first one which gave Apathy nothing

[[Vax]]

Yeah, don't suggest Futsuno is better than Amano in merit bt just because of a 5 hit build. You're forgetting Kaiten's strength, the lower delay.. the 2.5 proc... etc-etc-etc...

[Izzy]

Except the very first one which gave Apathy nothing

I still think that's because that AV was CFH'd. I think it fucked up the loot pool for that AV.

[[Vax]]

I still think that's because that AV was CFH'd. I think it fucked up the loot pool for that AV.

I thought the GM's there decided that they were cheating and zero'd the loot pool?

[Lordwafik]

I thought the GM's there decided that they were cheating and zero'd the loot pool?

they can't. Gotta love crazy rumors.

[Yugl]

Yeah, don't suggest Futsuno is better than Amano in merit bt just because of a 5 hit build. You're forgetting Kaiten's strength, the lower delay.. the 2.5 proc... etc-etc-etc...

Actually he said that he would use Amano for merit PTs. I'm guessing that means Futsuno would be more beneficial in other situations though (Which is something SE needs to fix imo).

[ringthree]

Actually he said that he would use Amano for merit PTs. I'm guessing that means Futsuno would be more beneficial in other situations though (Which is something SE needs to fix imo).

No, he suggested that because one WS is more damage then the GK was better. There is no evidence of this.

[Colenzo]

I think its going to be on par or shittier than hagun tbh. But yeah prolly the best sword for 300 TP.

[amylea]

My bad, I knew Minerva's didn't always drop. I meant 100% on Mar's Bellona's. It seems that even in the old school glitch kills he dropped those every time.

Our first kill (when it was glitchable) did not drop Bellona's.

[[Vax]]

Edit: Hagun v. Futsuno... All we'd really need to see is how Amanomurakumo's Gekko compares to Hagun's. If it's even CLOSE, Futsuno would win because of the whole "5 hit build" deal imo.

[Zekyr]

For anyone who got the GKT, what's the actual model? The icon suggests something like Shinsoku but with a black handle, nothing of which looks like I can find in the DATs.

Closest thing I can find is "Unknown03", which is tiny like Amano, looks like this:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5042/gkthh3.png

[Wolfknight]

For anyone who got the GKT, what's the actual model? The icon suggests something like Shinsoku but with a black handle, nothing of which looks like I can find in the DATs.

Closest thing I can find is "Unknown03", which is tiny like Amano, looks like this:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5042/gkthh3.png

that would be model I think since Icon for it looks similar to relic.

[Lebzile]

What Wolf says, I think when Map first got it and posted picture of it, everyone was dissapointed how close to amano it looked iirc.

[Lonewind]

Now let's try lvl Sync 72 DRKs dual wield Kclub + Oclub! >.>

[drwaffles]

Now let's try lvl Sync 72 DRKs dual wield Kclub + Oclub! >.>

Melee swings per round caps at 8, so Dual Wielding KC and OC (or KC and anything, for that matter) would just slow you down horribly I think.

[HadesChubbs]

Melee swings per round caps at 8, so Dual Wielding KC and OC (or KC and anything, for that matter) would just slow you down horribly I think.

Increases chance of hitting that cap, though. Someone did the math before and if i'm not mistaken this combo would do more, though I am kinda dumb so I could be wrong