Absolute Virtue ~ 9/8/08

[nednerb]

You've seen it before, but what the hell lets watch another.

Absolute Virtue First Kill on Shiva - 09/15/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWPzIveubBA

[dbdesigns]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn168/Marcin_turbo08/Untitled-5.jpg

We wiped at 14%. AoE stun fucked us, qq

Fuck that stun -.-

[Guitarman]

^Crazy, i didnt even notice we had that Aern on us.

[ikariiiii]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but the sets of drop pools seem interesting so far-


1:
* Sin of Invidiousness (Raphael's Rod)
* Sin of Insolence (Mars's Ring)
* Sin of Infatuation (Bellona's Ring)

2:
* Sin of Indignation (Ninurta's Sash)
* Sin of Insolence (Mars's Ring)
* Sin of Infatuation (Bellona's Ring)
* Sin of Indolence (Aureole)
* Sin of Invidiousness (Raphael's Rod)
* Sin of Intemperance (Minerva's Ring)



I haven't clicked through the 50+ pages of this thread, so I don't know what GK drop lot pool looks like ( has there even been one reported yet? )

[Kenji]

Ya know, in another thread, several people said how AV was made EZ mode because of Kclub zerging. Another group mocked them, saying that it still requires a LOT of luck and a hundred things could go wrong.

How many kills are we up to now?

I predict a lot of former elitists whining and crying on Tuesday, and a certain weapon being barely worth a couple mil.

Edit: Oh yeah, and how's that testing of other methods coming? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? *crickets*

[Kaeko]

Odin Team up done for the day again. 6 attempts 5 wins. We're 14 for 17 at the moment. Between us we're at...

1 GKT
6 Sashes
6 Aureoles
11 Minerva's Rings
14 Mar's Rings
14 Bellona's Rings
14 Raphael's Rods

Mar's, Bellona's, and Raphael's are all 100% as far as I can personally tell. GKT is definitely the rarest...

[Ramses]

Ya know, in another thread, several people said how AV was made EZ mode because of Kclub zerging. Another group mocked them, saying that it still requires a LOT of luck and a hundred things could go wrong.

How many kills are we up to now?

I predict a lot of former elitists whining and crying on Tuesday, and a certain weapon being barely worth a couple mil.

Edit: Oh yeah, and how's that testing of other methods coming? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? *crickets*

If you are talking about MK, than yes it is a few mil. They won't be nerfing KC. If there is any adjustment, it will be to AV. And how much testing were you expecting in 2 days when people would be expected to spam in case of a nerf? Certainly the lack thereof is not nearly enough to warrant smug sarcasm, but I guess that would mean using common sense.

[Kirbyprime]

AV got downed in 15seconds on Shiva >.> <.<

[Correction]

Ya know, in another thread, several people said how AV was made EZ mode because of Kclub zerging. Another group mocked them, saying that it still requires a LOT of luck and a hundred things could go wrong.

You're just not reading the posts by people who lost are you? It still is luck as to whether or not AV gets in a TP move or a 2hr which will immediately end any attempt. It's not the 'I win' button you assert.

And big surprise the shells with the capability to use kclub zergs are getting their attempts in at a greater rate than those formulating strategies because they are unable to muster the kclubs. Your statements are hollow.

[Cloudius]

and a certain weapon being barely worth a couple mil.

If this happens SE needs to add an NPC that would buy it for 30-40mil, or a lot of ppl are gonna get pissed/quit. I really doubt it though. (See: Mog lotto, 1st prize 100mil or a KC, etc)

[Jakson]

If this happens SE needs to add an NPC that would buy it for 30-40mil, or a lot of ppl are gonna get pissed/quit. I really doubt it though. (See: Mog lotto, 1st prize 100mil or a KC, etc)

Like TK?

[MIGhunter]

Ok so my LS did JoL tonight. We are a sea LS and have been doing JoL forever. Best time prenerf so far was 45 min. Now, we usually just play with AV to see what we could figure out. Now tonight, we thought hey let's see if we can do this legit and learn something. Our LS only has 2 kc drks, 1 bz drk and like 3-4 kris'. So we didn't really have the zerg power. Since we've been doing this for like 3 years, who cares if we can't kill AV right?

I'll post some SS of the log tomorrow. However, b4 I forget, a few things.
Maybe Coincidental but a thought from another member.

1st kill, AV pops after DRKs kill JoL, they have hate. 1st 2hr AV uses is Bloodweapon.
2nd kill, PLD dc'd and JoL kills pretty much anyone with hate. My brd gets drawn in, we kill JoL. AV pops and 1st 2hr is Soulvoice.

During Soulvoice he only charms. Never once did he cast anything else. When it wore off and he 2hr'd again, he spammed Aeroga4. I'm wondering if he only can do certain things during certain 2hrs. Like I said, when the ss are posted on PB, i'll post them hear for ppl to take them out.

btw, we never really did more than 3% damage. We were trying to see if there is any merit behind the 1-2k damage "your fight speed is all wrong" idea. We will continue to fight JoL and we will keep doing AV like this until we figure something out. Might grab some friends to zerg it a few times for gear but I'd rather learn how SE intended for this fight to be won.

Oh ya by the way, Halberd only 1st kill and Novia only 2nd kill. What crap, we've been getting full drops almost every kill till tonight.

[Jedimasta]

http://kotaku.com/5049761/epic-hard-...-in-one-minute
Now with more BG links!!!

[LinktheDeme]

http://kotaku.com/5049761/epic-hard-...-in-one-minute
Now with more BG links!!!

God I hate it when they dont even know what the fuck there talking about. Now SE for sure is gonna nerf souleater on him and make him invincible again.

[Uubu]

The relation to the last job that jol had hate ont he 2 the 2 hour that AV uses is a good observation, need to a little more testing. would be nice if an ls would be willing to sacrifice there kill shot on JOL to a rng since ees seems the most forgiving of all 2 hours (if brd 2 hour charms) and its single target.

[rezn0r]

@MIGhunter
nice observations, thanks

[Kaeko]

That's an extremely good observation...

The most common 2hrs I see off of it after it dies and before we gank are Blood weapon, SV, and Invincible. I've seen a Manafont, but also a Call Wynavs and we definitely did not have a DRG anywhere.

If this is true though, it could also be something like if the last job was one of the ones out prior to AV's creation like BLU or SCH, it gets a random pick?

If this works it's a really great way to set up your gank.

[toqabowl]

Now SE for sure is gonna nerf souleater on him and make him invincible again.

No need to nerf SE/BW/KC. If AV takes too many hits(not dmg including SE/BW) thay can program it to put up perfect dodge.

[Kaylia]

The relation to the last job that jol had hate ont he 2 the 2 hour that AV uses is a good observation, need to a little more testing. would be nice if an ls would be willing to sacrifice there kill shot on JOL to a rng since ees seems the most forgiving of all 2 hours (if brd 2 hour charms) and its single target.

Is it the last job that had hate, or the first person AV aggro (which is the same person 99% of the time)

[Kaeko]

Started a Futsuno Mitama breakoff thread in Newbie. Sort of interested in what SAMs think about it's usefulness and value.

http://bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63393