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  1. #361
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    Quote Originally Posted by magniusofhades View Post
    Xarcabard:
    RDM: 5
    WHAT.

  2. #362
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    must have been the day for RDM

    RDMx2
    MNKx3
    BLU
    PLD
    SMN
    DRG
    RNG
    NIN

    overall the best Xarc I've ever been a part of.

    Thanks SE

  3. #363
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner View Post
    WHAT.
    Sounds like KoN's epic 6 (was it 7?) RDM drops in xarc back in the day.

  4. #364
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    Record kills in Xarcabard for us today, 258 singles, 2 silverpieces and a jadeshell.

    However, only 12 Relic Armors.

    BLM
    PLD
    DRG
    COR
    WAR
    BLM (NM)
    DRG (NM)
    THF
    BLU
    DRK
    RDM
    DRG

    Honestly, considering how much we killed, I think we got shafted for drops. We took the approach today that Sonomaa posted earlier, where you just kill everything in your path. Started with the first 4 eyes + 1 statue + 2 NIN 2 SAM 2 SMN 2 DRG pull, followed by the time extension pull that a RNG or RDM would usually solo. Took out the huge pulls first.

    Cleared 93 mobs (not sure exact amount) before starting on NMs, with 5 drops to show for it.

    After NMs, we cleared 114 mobs, for a total of 207 - over 2/3 of Xarcabard's farmable demons. There are only 300 farmable demons in the zone. Wasted some time getting a Necropsyche for myself and attempting Scythe too (didn't have our zerg setup).

    Just wish we could do NMs faster, I know we can save time on them if our BLMs take some initiative. :/ Oh well.

  5. #365
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    Well, to take the optimistic viewpoint, we now get to say "only 12 AFs" in regards to Xarcabard without having many DIAFs thrown our way.

  6. #366
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    Low-man Tav farming that didn't go so well, we only killed to the first TE on the third floor. Maybe 20 mobs total, including bees, tarus and eyes.

    PUP head, SAM head, MNK head, BLU legs -1, RNG legs -1, M. Silverpiece (eye). That is more than I have ever seen in runs there where we've hit all TEs and killed 3X as many mobs.

  7. #367
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    I think it's relevant.

    I know there's a picture of two AF dropping from Xarcabard. But this is from Sandoria:

    http://www.itadakiproject.com/2af2.png

  8. #368
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    Pretty sure they just put a new slot in for the new AF, so it wouldn't mess with the old's droprate.

    We got RDM BLU on 1 mob in Beaucedine too.

  9. #369
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    Last night's Qufim bagged us no 100s or -1.

    But we saw SAM and BLU hands from the same Quadav.

  10. #370
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    We did Beaucedine yesterday with 13 and generally cleared the zone up to the boss.
    Rdm 1
    Nin 1
    Mnk 2
    Whm 2
    Sam 3
    Cor 2
    Blu 1
    War 1
    Bst 2
    Pep 1
    2 100 bill, 48 single, 70 shells, and 58 coins

    Got the Pep on the 1st mob we killed.
    There was a few more cant remember have to wait for SS. Cant wait to try Xarcabard next week hope we get lucky on rdm thf and pld.

  11. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerd View Post
    Record kills in Xarcabard for us today, 258 singles, 2 silverpieces and a jadeshell.

    However, only 12 Relic Armors.

    BLM
    PLD
    DRG
    COR
    WAR
    BLM (NM)
    DRG (NM)
    THF
    BLU
    DRK
    RDM
    DRG

    Honestly, considering how much we killed, I think we got shafted for drops. We took the approach today that Sonomaa posted earlier, where you just kill everything in your path. Started with the first 4 eyes + 1 statue + 2 NIN 2 SAM 2 SMN 2 DRG pull, followed by the time extension pull that a RNG or RDM would usually solo. Took out the huge pulls first.

    Cleared 93 mobs (not sure exact amount) before starting on NMs, with 5 drops to show for it.

    After NMs, we cleared 114 mobs, for a total of 207 - over 2/3 of Xarcabard's farmable demons. There are only 300 farmable demons in the zone. Wasted some time getting a Necropsyche for myself and attempting Scythe too (didn't have our zerg setup).

    Just wish we could do NMs faster, I know we can save time on them if our BLMs take some initiative. :/ Oh well.

    this is kinda ironic and I suspect we'll see more of this in the coming weeks.

    Xarcabard drops 12 AF2 and you believe you were "shafted". Funny, cause I can't recall too many Xarcs (full or almost full clear or w/e) that dropped nearly half that much before the update. Now post update, people are thinking they deserve 20+ AF2...

    just think it's ironic that we are now seeing consistant 10+ items/run in ice and some people (such as yourself) are still... unsatisfied. Having been a dynamis veteran for almost 3 years now and having done 150+ ICE zones, I couldn't be more happy with these results from SE.

  12. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghikque View Post
    this is kinda ironic and I suspect we'll see more of this in the coming weeks.

    Xarcabard drops 12 AF2 and you believe you were "shafted". Funny, cause I can't recall too many Xarcs (full or almost full clear or w/e) that dropped nearly half that much before the update. Now post update, people are thinking they deserve 20+ AF2...

    just think it's ironic that we are now seeing consistant 10+ items/run in ice and some people (such as yourself) are still... unsatisfied. Having been a dynamis veteran for almost 3 years now and having done 150+ ICE zones, I couldn't be more happy with these results from SE.
    I really try to avoid sounding elitist, but then posts like this come up. I'm not sure how your LS operates, but I can tell you that based on our previous track record, 10 AFs from 207 farmable mobs (2 were off NMs) is a 4.8% drop rate, which is pretty much exactly what you would have seen before the update. This number of AFs would have been pretty standard for us pre-update considering the sheer amount of mobs we killed.

    A lot of people don't seem to realize it, but pre-update drop rates in outlands were exactly the same as cities; you just killed a lot less mobs. Now with what seems to be doubled drop rates in outlands, we should be seeing somewhere in the vicinity of 8-10% drop rates with TH4. We saw half that. Does it sound greedy? Maybe. Is it far fetched to expect the same drop rates as others are getting? Not at all.

    Anyway, my point is that our LS didn't really see the new results, save maybe 1 extra piece of AF. We merely had a record-breaking run in terms of how much we killed.

  13. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerd View Post
    I really try to avoid sounding elitist, but then posts like this come up. I'm not sure how your LS operates, but I can tell you that based on our previous track record, 10 AFs from 207 farmable mobs (2 were off NMs) is a 4.8% drop rate, which is pretty much exactly what you would have seen before the update. This number of AFs would have been pretty standard for us pre-update considering the sheer amount of mobs we killed.

    A lot of people don't seem to realize it, but pre-update drop rates in outlands were exactly the same as cities; you just killed a lot less mobs. Now with what seems to be doubled drop rates in outlands, we should be seeing somewhere in the vicinity of 8-10% drop rates with TH4. We saw half that. Does it sound greedy? Maybe. Is it far fetched to expect the same drop rates as others are getting? Not at all.

    Anyway, my point is that our LS didn't really see the new results, save maybe 1 extra piece of AF. We merely had a record-breaking run in terms of how much we killed.
    There's always going to be statistical variations, though even 4.8% seems to be pretty low.

    I'm not quite ready to say the drop rate was simply doubled yet. I'm waiting to see some iceland mobs drop non-ToAU AF in the second slot. If it's the case that both slots can drop any of the 18 pieces of AF, then yeah, 4.8% is certainly an aberration.

  14. #374
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    Glacier last Tuesday, 11 drops:

    MNK x2
    PLD
    DRK
    BRD x2
    RNG x2
    NIN
    BLU
    COR

    Xarcabard last night, 15 drops:

    WAR
    MNK x2
    WHM x2
    BLM
    DRK
    BRD x2
    DRG x2
    SMN x2
    BLU
    PUP

  15. #375
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    Xarc last night:
    BLU
    PUP X2
    PLD
    BRD
    3x Montionts, one of them being the only drop from DL

    So far my Dynamis group has missed the memo on increased drops

  16. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseos View Post
    Xarc last night:
    BLU
    PUP X2
    PLD
    BRD
    3x Montionts, one of them being the only drop from DL

    So far my Dynamis group has missed the memo on increased drops
    Side note:

    Pld & Pup dropped from the same mob. Best and Worst AF from same mob? lol

  17. #377
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    hmmm i wonder

    is drk or pup the worst piece from xarc now

  18. #378
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    I love how SE throws 'Dynamis-goers' a bone, and people still bitch. It's fucking hilarious to say the least.

    The whole 'shafted' thing, shit if you were unlucky on the day be grateful you got 12 AF2. If you were unlucky pre-update you'd be lucky to get any AF2 which weren't BST or WAR lol.

    SE will never win shit like this, ever, simply because people can't appreciate it, if i were SE i'd monitor the assholes who moan about 12AF2 Xarc runs and ban their asses from Dynamis; i couldn't care less if it was what you were getting pre-update or not, it's simply idiotic to moan about 12 AF2 in Dynamis Xarcabard.

    ViVi~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviton View Post
    I love how SE throws 'Dynamis-goers' a bone, and people still bitch. It's fucking hilarious to say the least.

    The whole 'shafted' thing, shit if you were unlucky on the day be grateful you got 12 AF2. If you were unlucky pre-update you'd be lucky to get any AF2 which weren't BST or WAR lol.

    SE will never win shit like this, ever, simply because people can't appreciate it, if i were SE i'd monitor the assholes who moan about 12AF2 Xarc runs and ban their asses from Dynamis; i couldn't care less if it was what you were getting pre-update or not, it's simply idiotic to moan about 12 AF2 in Dynamis Xarcabard.

    ViVi~
    Wizerd wasn't bitching, he was just making an observation. If he had gone "WAAAAHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GIVE ME MORE AF SE" you'd have a point, but he didn't. All the real QQers are in the AV thread.

  20. #380
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    Hey Ruiner, you're the guy who posted those special looking pics on KI (or BG, idr) right? I like you.

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