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  1. #601
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Sorry wrote post too fast

    I mean have you remarked if hydra gear seem to drop better then other AF with update, or is it still the same as other AF in zone

    Sorry for miss comprehension :D

  2. #602
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    If haubert is a blowjob from Jessica Simpson, what's Ares body?

  3. #603
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    Sunday Dyna-Buec

    smn
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    pup
    blu
    thf
    brd
    blm
    warx2
    nin
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    The best part of the run was killing all Hydra(excluding the AttNM's) and getting all time extensions. Very fun run.

  4. #604
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afrohatch View Post
    If haubert is a blowjob from Jessica Simpson, what's Ares body?
    The high quality period of intermission between blowjobs from said Jessica Simpson?

  5. #605
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afrohatch View Post
    If haubert is a blowjob from Jessica Simpson, what's Ares body?
    A blow job from Ashlee Simpson

  6. #606
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    Hey, hey, hey

    Ashlee Simpson is fine when she's blonde

  7. #607
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    To hell with a bj from Jessica Simpson so many better names to throw out there. She seems like the type that would be like ooo ice cream sounds good right now as she gets pounded from behind . Just seems that ditzy to me

  8. #608
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    Quote Originally Posted by lysol View Post
    To hell with a bj from Jessica Simpson so many better names to throw out there. She seems like the type that would be like ooo ice cream sounds good right now as she gets pounded from behind . Just seems that ditzy to me
    Ya, because when I am banging Jessica Simpson, I am thinking "GOD I love how smart this chick is".

    Thats like wanting a hydra haubert for the 20 mp.

    Also, as to the actual question on drops:

    GO for the fucking gold. Hydra drop rates seemed to have been boosted a good amount too.

  9. #609
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    You know the worst part, the absolute worst part of this? People who have never done a northlands or CoP Dynamis before this patch who will join Dynamis shells and be oblivious and ungrateful about how this patch turned Dynamis into Awesomenamis. Someone will whine that we "only" got 5 Relics in a northlands run, and I will want to reach through my monitor to try to strangle him/her, because I remember the years of only getting one BST Relic or getting nothing at all. No no, not just one time, more times than I even want to remember.
    ^ This. Having done nearly 3 years of dyna with my old shell, it's kinda a good and bad thing that the newbie shell I now run has walked into Ice with increased drop rates. Half the shell has dyna experience, half is oblivious.

  10. #610
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    Dynamis Xarc

    We did do Dynamis Lord so that took away some farming time.

    Thief
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    Dark Knight x2 (1 from NM)
    White Mage x3
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    Shadow mantle, 16 AFs, 3 100cs. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet

  11. #611
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerd View Post
    In over 9 months time (since before the beggining of this year), we haven't had a Xarcabard drop less than 3 Relic Armors. And that was on a bad day, with not as much killed. Our minimum before that was 4, with 4-7 drops per Xarca. I believe our high was 9, before. Our member count has varied from 22 to 34 in that time, up and down, and I believe our 3 AF run was the one with 22.

    For anyone who gets less than 3 drops in a Xarcabard run with more than ~22 people, I really have to wonder about your luck, or what you kill. Also, doing DL by means of job switching and re-entering before you get at least 4-5 drops is a foolish move, in my opinion. DL shouldn't be attempted if you can't do the entire run with the jobs for it. :/

    I can see no drops with 15 people though, naturally you'll kill less and luck can just fuck you over.
    Excluding our last, post-update run, we've done Dynamis-Xarcabard 29 times in the last year. In that time we've averaged almost 4 AF per run, but had:

    1 run with 0 AF (interestingly, the same run Izzy received his fragment)
    2 runs with 1 AF
    4 runs with 2 AF
    7 runs with 3 AF

    Other than Vanguard Eyes, we cover everything with the maximum possible Treasure Hunter, including the Dynamis Lord. Depending on how well we manage our time, we're able to clear between 85 and 153 Kindred before we stop for the Dynamis Lord.

    Also, I've never seen a DL drop nothing; in fact all my DLs have dropped Ring or Mantle. No double drops and no coin-only drops.
    Of the 26 runs in that time frame where we cleared the Dynamis Lord, we received neither a Shadow Mantle nor a Shadow Ring 11 times. It happens a lot.

    It also only takes us about 45 minutes to clear the Dynamis Lord (time for Vanguard Dragons + Ying/Yang + job changes + re-entry + waiting for weakness + kill), which while certainly could be time used to farm more Kindred, isn't that big of a deal.

    I agree that many people will be completely unaware of how fortunate they are with the change to the Northlands and CoP zones' drop rates, but that mentality already exists with new members that join an established, successful linkshell.

    Getting more AF is great, but the best part from this update overall for a group that has been in these areas a long time already is the VERY noticeable increase in morale and momentum (allowing us to kill even faster and even more as a result) because we are getting things to drop instead of wondering if we'll walk out with virtually nothing yet again.

    Edit: To keep the post somewhat relevant, we received 12 AF--with far, far too many SMN--and a full Dynamis Lord drop on our first post-update Xarcabard last week. A record for us for Xarcabard, by far, which would have been easily more had we not lost 30 minutes on a series of wipes/recoveries.

  12. #612
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    Dyna-X tonight here:

    MNK x2
    PLD
    RDM x2
    COR x2
    WAR x2
    BRD
    DRK
    1x 100 ( i think )

    or something the like ( thf won't drop still! )

  13. #613
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    You know the worst part, the absolute worst part of this? People who have never done a northlands or CoP Dynamis before this patch who will join Dynamis shells and be oblivious and ungrateful about how this patch turned Dynamis into Awesomenamis. Someone will whine that we "only" got 5 Relics in a northlands run, and I will want to reach through my monitor to try to strangle him/her, because I remember the years of only getting one BST Relic or getting nothing at all. No no, not just one time, more times than I even want to remember.
    I remember many a bcd run where we'd clear about every damn mob in the zone & for all our effort only currency drops. Yeah real fucking awesome huh?

    75 RDM for 4 years and it took me 3 of those years to even get 4/5 on relic minus the hat and a 75 THF for 3 years and still missing both icelands pieces. I'm happy the droprate got upped. It was way overdue and I'm going to be sure that the server will probably shutdown and crash the moment the relic hat falls into my inventory. lol

  14. #614
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    I'm mostly irritated about how my HNMLS I was in since the dawn of time dissolved about a week before this update... Now I'm a greenhorn in another LS that actually has other people with 75PUP watching all the Pantin gear go to people who simply have the points for it.

  15. #615
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teorem View Post
    Interesting statistics

    It's times like right now that I wish I had full access to the linkshell database so I could pull stats like this out my butt.

    It raises an interesting question to Wizerd though: what, exactly, are you doing differently than us? A TH4 THF in every alliance? Make the THF go /whm and diaga everything? I don't really see how the droprate between our LS would be so dramatically different, except your LS seems to go with 1/2 to 2/3 of the number of people in our runs.

  16. #616
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    Last night: Sandy, 16 AF2s (I didn't keep a list this time), 1 100.

  17. #617
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teorem View Post
    It also only takes us about 45 minutes to clear the Dynamis Lord (time for Vanguard Dragons + Ying/Yang + job changes + re-entry + waiting for weakness + kill), which while certainly could be time used to farm more Kindred, isn't that big of a deal.
    Teorem, what I don't understand about this paragraph is why you guys switch jobs in the first place. If it only takes you 45 minutes to clear everything out, switch jobs, re-enter, and kill DL, it would take you max 25 minutes to clear everything out, and just kill DL if you entered the run with jobs DL-ready.

    From what I've observed on your website, and based on what Halon said, you generally enter Xarcabard with over 36 players. Sept 17 for example, you 48 according to your website. When we kill DL, we do it with 34-36 and no job changes, and it's overkill, and we have nothing special (unless you count M.kris and Ridill as special, but I think you guys probably have access to those).

    Quote Originally Posted by Halon50
    It raises an interesting question to Wizerd though: what, exactly, are you doing differently than us? A TH4 THF in every alliance? Make the THF go /whm and diaga everything? I don't really see how the droprate between our LS would be so dramatically different, except your LS seems to go with 1/2 to 2/3 of the number of people in our runs.
    I don't think we really do anything different... We have one THF with TH4 hitting mobs, generally. I don't offhand TK or use AA when another THF is there. In non-Xarc areas, I have one TH4 pulling and one TH4 hitting the mobs. We haven't done DL in a while though, and we consistently kill at *least* 130 demons in Xarcabard, with our record now being 207.

  18. #618
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    Teorem, what I don't understand about this paragraph is why you guys switch jobs in the first place. If it only takes you 45 minutes to clear everything out, switch jobs, re-enter, and kill DL, it would take you max 25 minutes to clear everything out, and just kill DL if you entered the run with jobs DL-ready.
    We take time to switch much of our support and a couple tanks to melee jobs, add another BRD, and have a couple RDMs to change from /BLM to /DRK. The alliances we use for the Dynamis Lord cannot function through the zone prior to that due to the sheer lack of support. It makes clearing the Dynamis Lord much faster and far more consistent than using our balanced alliances, at the cost of less than 20 minutes (job changes + unweakening time). We can usually take a couple specials getting through Stun (not common, but it happens) and still finish the job.

    The rest of the time taken involves clearing things I wouldn't have us do if we were just farming and ignoring the Dynamis Lord.

    It's times like right now that I wish I had full access to the linkshell database so I could pull stats like this out my butt.
    Everything I listed was compiled using the information all members have access to, the Run List right off the main page.

    I don't think we really do anything different... We have one THF with TH4 hitting mobs, generally. I don't offhand TK or use AA when another THF is there. In non-Xarc areas, I have one TH4 pulling and one TH4 hitting the mobs.
    The biggest problem I have is convincing people that we have Treasure Hunter sufficiently distributed to cover everything we're fighting. I almost always have a THF pulling. If we're double targeting, I usually have a THF/BLM with Assassin's Armlets and a Thief's Knife using Sleepga on everything on the pull or have a THF in each group. If we only have one THF (uncommon), I don't make them target to ensure they're able to attack everything.

    Yet when things don't drop much in the first hour, I get no less than ten /tells from people asking me if they can change to THF so they can increase the drop rates.

    We haven't done DL in a while though, and we consistently kill at *least* 130 demons in Xarcabard, with our record now being 207.
    When I say 85 Kindred, that's the low-ball, lots of stupid wipes, we-fucked-up-bad-this-run number that we are guaranteed to clear. We haven't had any problems clearing 127 +/- 10 Kindred lately, and probably would have gotten 165ish last run had we not lost so much time.

  19. #619
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    With the enhanced city drop rates, I'm wondering if it's viable to farm a cop zone for a better than average chance at a city af. Darn bard's roundlet's the bane of my existence

  20. #620
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    Last night's xarca: 11 af's 1 100

    thf X 2
    pup X 2
    war X 2
    blm
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    sam

    thf and blm dropped off the first and second mobs >______>, whm mob also dropped pup+ war and I didn't even know a single mob could drop two afs <.<.

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