WS Quest

[SamanosukeShiva]

need tachi rana dmg shot

[Marcicus]

was talking to one of my JP friends who was getting answers from the JP community on how many points you need, and he said this:

Ordin>>100F=250pt,96F=500pt,80F=530pt(his math is wrong here, you'll see why) X1000P maybe 5floor +250pt, but 100F=250pt and 96F=500pt is fact. So 0F = 5250pt

Trying to upload pics atm.

[Duwie]

so like... how much dmg are you guys doing with the new ws?

[Nameless]

Is this possible? Dist and then fusion?

[kwontess]

Leaden Salute Damage Analysis

I've had it for a bit now and I've been trying to figure out the formula. I obviously started with the standard elemental damage ws formula, but it doesn't line up properly.

I started hoping it was based somewhat off something physical. I changed from steel bullets to regular bullets and no change in damage.

For one thing typically if you increase your skill by X then it should increase the total damage by fTP*X (assuming no MAB, day bonus, etc). I started at 258 skill and then put on gun belt and then raised my skill by 2 with merits (getting up to 265). Any combination of these gave exactly the same damage.

I tested AGI a bit, but I'll return to that later. The next test was str and dex and vit (threw on warwolf and rajas ring) to no avail.

I messed a bit with my chr and other stats while keeping AGI the same and had no luck seeing any difference in damage.

Now for AGI. Roughly every point of AGI that I add gives 3 additional damage. However total damage is not simply 3x AGI. The best I can figure is that its roughly

300+2.94xAGI

Now all of these tests were done at exactly 111 TP (I know 100 TP is ideal and where I should be doing things, but quicksilver lands on 111 TP every time on the DoT it was easy to do and consistent to get a rough idea of the damage).

I've additional changed my HP and my MP, both max and current with no luck.

For the data:

AGI-DMG:
74-518
75-520
79-532
89-560
98-590
107-616
113-632

The formula isn't exact, but its pretty close and seems to roughly scale by 3xAGI. I still need to figure out TP mods and refine this a bit, but it should give some idea to the curious cor's out there what they can expect.

[Priran]

one sec let me get my electron microscope

[eva00r]

Tachi: Rana in JP version is "Acc varies by TP", confirm please.

[Guitarman]

o 0F = 5250pt

erm, no. 5 thousand is fucking beyond stupid.

[ekky]

Update on Insurgency damage:
Tested on TW mobs in Sauromugue Champaign 4 hits in ws gear (wrong gorget for now) was 1100-1300 same as for guillo in same set up.
300% wasnt noticable more at 1317 but only tried once so possibly a low end score.

Testing as /thf in North Gustaberg getting 211-219 in normal ws gear and 220-226 after Absorb-STR

thats all i can bear to do now 3:30 am ><

[Samot]

5250 points.... fuck that. SE fucks 5/6ths of the nyzule players, good game.

[Maxxthepenguin]

5250 points.... fuck that. SE fucks 5/6ths of the nyzule players, good game.

You do realize how everybody's disc levels at the same time now, right?

[Kaelia]

5250 points is BS. Somebody with 0 floors on their disk got the 2nd to last update message with 550 points only. If it required him to get over 5,000 points to unlock, it wouldn't give him the 2nd to last message at only 10% of his total WS points. Total max for 0 floors wouldn't be any higher than like 750 IMO.

[Tempyst]

5250 points.... fuck that. SE fucks 5/6ths of the nyzule players, good game.

Yeah, let's all jump to conclusions over what some nameless JP said

[Izzy]

Is this possible? Dist and then fusion?

Are you fucking serious?

[Eleven19]

Yes, however most nyzul players did this in statics in the past with 1-2 disc holders.

I did floors 1-100 and my disc is only at 16 =/

[Kaylia]

so like... how much dmg are you guys doing with the new ws?

Slightly less than Raging rush for me..or at least, that's what it seemed like. However, people complaining about raw damage are probably missing the points. Those WS are meant to give more skillchain opporunity, while doing decent damage.

I don't mind taking a 150 damage drop on a ws, when it allow me to do a 900dmg skillchain.

[Marcicus]

erm, no. 5 thousand is fucking beyond stupid.

Because nothing in this game is beyond fucking stupid(Let me point you to PW good sir). I'm waiting on numbers from other people myself before I jump on this inevitable trainwreck, so cool your briches.

[Nameless]

you get the point. Vorpal scythe > full break = dist > atonement > fusion.

Trying to do alot of things now, you can still see it, just kinda small.

[Therin]

You guys are being a little ridiculous, if that formula is true simply advancing to 20 cuts your progress greatly. It's not THAT hard to do Nyzul, even though it is pretty annoying if you're trying to balance Salvage.

[Lishje]

Update from lv0 Runic disk man.

615 WS points as of this moment. Ran back to Jeuno and THE SAME MESSAGE AS AT 300!

Yep. Not joking. I'ma go kill a baby kitten now.