WS Quest

[Kirschy]

I didn't plan on posting anything, but I guess I'll just post a little. After 2 hrs of playing /w bees outside gustaberg... I get the feeling that these new WS don't completely conform to the normal Damage Calculations. From what I can tell~

Scythe WS - Insurgency

It appears to be STR/INT Mod.
The first hit is extremely low fTP...
My estimates~
-@100 TP ~.35
-@200 TP ~.55
-@300 TP ~.70
No apparant aftereffects using Apoc /w Insurgency.
Insurgency is listed ontop of Catastrophe.
Light Gorget works.

Light Gorget did work, but the damage increase wasn't as much as it should have been which makes me believe something is not right. For some basic damage:

(The following tests were done by using SA + Insurgency @ 111 TP. Only the first hit lands, and it's a critical hit with low variance. I used Meat Mithkabob. My STR was 80, my INT was 66. I only used Apoc for these tests.)

Normal WS:
228
233
229
231
228
230
234
228
228
230

/w +32 STR
244
239
247

/w +86 STR
255
244

/w +32 INT
245

/w Gorget
268
278
273
281
270

Keeping in mind that it probably works like other WS, only the first hit has the low pdif. The other 3 probably have 1.0. I'm reserving most of my judgement until I see the WS perform in real situations. For now it seems like a guillotine alternative.

[Thatguyoverthere]

Ok I think it's SC's only. That's the only possible thing I can think of being different. My SC partner had to leave shortly after I'd hit 300 and I just stayed down there and finished my last 200 solo.

Will update in 200 more darkness ><

[evilpaul]

Anyone try out the mnk ws yet?

Somebody put SC info on it on page 6 or so.

[Laharl]

Quicksilver
Floor 0 Disc

1250 ws points no ws yet

last checked npc at 1053
still had 2nd message

[Cream Soda]

Somebody put SC info on it on page 6 or so.

Was talking more about general dmg and how it is vs Asuran DK and HF

[eva00r]

http://bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63084

New thread for WS/Damage/Mod testing. Everything found so far is now gathered there.

[evilpaul]

Was talking more about general dmg and how it is vs Asuran DK and HF

I'm hoping for a HF or better that can crit w/o retarded sub, but no info to that direction yet.

[Ramses]

I've been playing around with Insurgency for a few hours and it's really not impressive at all. It looks really cool, but damage seems to be about same as guillotine. The animation is guillotine into cross reaper into spiral hell. Str does seem to be a mod. 300% tp made almost no difference from the few times I tried it. So I'm just wondering what the point is if it doesn't outdo guillotine at 100% or spiral hell at 300%.

[Samot]

"Quicksilver
Floor 0 Disc

1250 ws points no ws yet

last checked npc at 1053
still had 2nd message"


god thats some bullshit, there better be something we're missing that makes it easier cause that's messed up.

[Tahngarthor]

I wonder if climbing after the fact will take away from the needed number of WS points...

[sekaran]

I wonder if climbing after the fact will take away from the needed number of WS points...

It does. Member in my Assault group had 270 points or so before we did her 96 > 100 run, after the run she had the new weapon skill.

[hexagram23]

I've been playing around with Insurgency for a few hours and it's really not impressive at all. It looks really cool, but damage seems to be about same as guillotine. The animation is guillotine into cross reaper into spiral hell. Str does seem to be a mod. 300% tp made almost no difference from the few times I tried it. So I'm just wondering what the point is if it doesn't outdo guillotine at 100% or spiral hell at 300%.

It doesn't outdo Guillotine....but is the damage the same? Because if so I'll use it just to see a new animation.

[Thatguyoverthere]

Got it ^^ King's Justice.

400 SC points and 200 solo ws's broke it for me. Whether it was SC points only or both I don't know. Guess someone else can build off that.

1st ws with WC and not flipping to ws gear did 1520 with sturdy axe. Now to go try it out with perdu.

[Tsukasaz]

It doesn't outdo Guillotine....but is the damage the same? Because if so I'll use it just to see a new animation.

Are you fucking retarded? He wrote it RIGHT IN THE THING YOU QUOTED. GOD

Edit: This is what he quoted, in case he deletes it.

[Originally Posted by Ramses
I've been playing around with Insurgency for a few hours and it's really not impressive at all. It looks really cool, but damage seems to be about same as guillotine. The animation is guillotine into cross reaper into spiral hell. Str does seem to be a mod. 300% tp made almost no difference from the few times I tried it. So I'm just wondering what the point is if it doesn't outdo guillotine at 100% or spiral hell at 300%.]

[Laharl]

1362 ws points still no ws, tru sadness

[hexagram23]

Are you fucking retarded? He wrote it RIGHT IN THE THING YOU QUOTED. GOD

Edit: This is what he quoted, in case he deletes it.

[Originally Posted by Ramses
I've been playing around with Insurgency for a few hours and it's really not impressive at all. It looks really cool, but damage seems to be about same as guillotine. The animation is guillotine into cross reaper into spiral hell. Str does seem to be a mod. 300% tp made almost no difference from the few times I tried it. So I'm just wondering what the point is if it doesn't outdo guillotine at 100% or spiral hell at 300%.]

Seriously if something this petty upsets you this bad, off yourself.

This isn't the only person who has the WS. Others have said it's not as good as Guillotine, so I asked him for verification "is it in fact equal to Guillotine?". I know what he said, other people have said differently. Should I assume this guy is wrong because someone said something different?

Do me a favor, randomly go scream at a stranger "ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED" over a simple misunderstanding. Let us know how it goes after you wake up in the hospital. People taking tones and/or expressing aggression over petty shit just because they're on the internet gets really old, really fast.

[malak]

1362 ws points still no ws, tru sadness

I feel sorry for this guy and who ever is helping him.

I'm just going to wait until I get a runic key and save myself 1000+ ws points. >_______>

[Eleven19]

"Got it ^^ King's Justice.

400 SC points and 200 solo ws's broke it for me. Whether it was SC points only or both I don't know. Guess someone else can build off that."

So wait, what's your runic disc up to if you needed 400+ points?

[Chrian]

well just got wightslayer with 0 floors cleared time to kill 5000 colibri

[Lasareth]

Got Vidohunirwhatever at 580 WS points, 579 of which were from closing fusion and 1 of which was a random WS. I'm FL assault rank and on floor 96 of nyzul.

swift blade > vido = fragmentation
savage blade > vido = distortion
vido > swift = darkness

I'm really not sure what that means, I'll leave that to the experts.
Checking for level 3 SCs