WS Quest

[Ahlah]

Pachi will outperform Hagun with 5 hits setup and Rana, assuming you have good accuracy tho

This is nice, hopefully more ppl will show interest in ZNM :/

[MaachaQ]

question for people who have gotten these WSs, do you keep the base weapon? So that you can use it to later start the full upgrade with Abqubah? I didn't see anyone say, maybe i missed it...

[Funkworkz]

yea you keep the weapon when you finish the quest

[Drex]

-with a runic key, after 250 WS points are accumilated, the WS will become available. Trading the weapon to the quest NPC will allow the WS to be used with any weapon of the same type. You WILL get your weapon back afterwards.

yes.

[Guitarman]

Updated OP to show the 1500 points and no ws information. Going to bed now, will update in the morning if anything new is learned.

Btw: the immortal is giving me strange dialogue now, after accumilating a few hundred points(not trading a weapon, just plain old talking to him). He talks to himself about "how dare they call me a thief" and such. Someone might want to check around Whitegate and see if maybe theres a mini quest we're missing that will make this whole ordeal easier.

And, may i just add:

[Cow_k]

so yeah, I just did WAR and BLU weapon skills and both unlocked at exactly 250 points with a runic key. Maybe you accidentally fought some too weak mobs doing your 350 points? So far I've seen no variations from the 250 with key between me and my friends.

[Not Kuno]

so yeah, I just did WAR and BLU weapon skills and both unlocked at exactly 250 points with a runic key. Maybe you accidentally fought some too weak mobs doing your 350 points? So far I've seen no variations from the 250 with key between me and my friends.

I don't think he has the key.

Currently I'm upto floor 95 (orz). Will doing 500 get me the ws? Like, is this confirmed cause people are having problems apparently. What about if I get 250 then get the key next week when I do nyz? Anyone have any idea?

[Cow_k]

Radiant Lance broke at exactly 250 with my Runic Key. Fkn Wightslayer is over 350 now and still no Expiacion. Getting really annoying.

Yeah he has a key.

Edit: Also, consensus is that 500 should unlock you at floor 96.

Double edit: I also forgot to mention this, but I got my weaponskill quest started BEFORE I got my runic key and weapon skilled a few times, then a few hours later, got my runic key and it only took me 250 to unlock, so I'm sure that means if you start early you can get your runic key the next week and already be finished.

[Kkel]

I de/re-equipped my Wightslayer and Expiacion became available. -_-

No way of knowing when it actually did, but my guess is 250 like the Lance.

On to Windslicer.

[Not Kuno]

Can you do point stuff like this in lvl cap zones or synced?

[deadpooled]

dont know if this helps at all :

trying to unlock Death blossom - 0 floors/captain

after 300 ws points got the level 2 (marked increase) message

[Wycor]

god... finally finished Blade: kamu. With no Runic key and runic disk at 96 i needed 509 points (which also were 509 solo WS) DMG suxs but i was using Sasuke katana did 300 dmg to a EP robber crab in vunker isle.

[Sylvrdragon]

dont know if this helps at all :

trying to unlock Death blossom - 0 floors/captain

after 300 ws points got the level 2 (marked increase) message

It doesn't help. Nothing you say every helps. Whore.

[4evrDRG]

i bet drakesbane's would destroy with gungnir

Well Ive got Gae Assail, on my way to Gungnir. Im counting on this.

[TT]

Drakesbane appears pretty strong. Angon'd lesser colibri it did 2006 without songs/food. Im not sure if I got a DA proc on it. I'm using 60+32 dex atm. I think I could stick in Pixie earring and a +5 DEX ring to get an even 100 and raise chance of crit?

I didn't test any SCs, I just know it doesn't SC with the new PUP skill.

[Kimkytaru]

Pachi will outperform Hagun with 5 hits setup and Rana, assuming you have good accuracy tho.

how do you know that ? I mean pachi is performing just below Hagun atm and I didnt saw a lot of Rana testing without Amanomurakumo yet, how you know Pachi Rana will outparse a Hagun Gekko user ?

[rithridan]

how do you know that ? I mean pachi is performing just below Hagun atm and I didnt saw a lot of Rana testing without Amanomurakumo yet, how you know Pachi Rana will outparse a Hagun Gekko user ?

At most it's an educated guess, not a lot of information is available yet. Time will tell, I just hope I don't have to get another multi million GKTN (assuming Pachi is worth that) or maybe I'll just have to settle with Onimaru.

[Fyrebrand]

god... finally finished Blade: kamu. With no Runic key and runic disk at 96 i needed 509 points (which also were 509 solo WS) DMG suxs but i was using Sasuke katana did 300 dmg to a EP robber crab in vunker isle.

could you please test it further than 1 ws please i really hope it doesnt suck sick of using jin and metsu meh

[eva00r]

how do you know that ? I mean pachi is performing just below Hagun atm and I didnt saw a lot of Rana testing without Amanomurakumo yet, how you know Pachi Rana will outparse a Hagun Gekko user ?

Before patch, Hagun > Pachi because Hagun's Y/G/K is way stronger than Pachi's Y/G/K. However Pachi lands many more WS than Hagun, but the numbers of ws still didn't make up the damage of a single hit that Hagun can dish out.

Now with Rana, Pachi's WS will outdamage Hagun in each single WS because somebody has already tested that Hagun didn't perform well with Rana. That's quite true for using any martial weapon with multi hits WS that has damage varies by TP. Hagun's extra 100 TP will only boost the first hit, not all 3 hits. This gives Pachi's advantage with higher D and +12 attack. However the -6 accuracy is the real Pachi's issue.

I don't see how Hagun's YGK will outperform Pachi's Rana spam in any case if you can manage the -6 accuracy somehow.

[Kimkytaru]

Ok maybe I wasnt clear enough but the number we saw until know are Rana Amano Number, how do you know already that pachi rana dmg will be the same or higher than Hagun Rana number ? Maybe I missed something somewhere.

Also the - accurancy can be pretty bad on HNM, I dunno really.