WS Quest

[Shassira]

For what it's worth, i broke Wightslayer with 700 points. Considering the way I kept track, the error margin is <=5. My disc is marked at 85 (as in, i can start at 86).

[Tahngarthor]

i am.....i know it lowers your required ws points as you climb...but what if the restriction that GM mentioned requires your disk to have a floor20 record in the first place before any ws points even starts applying towards your weapon....seeing as some people with lvl10 disk has already done 7200+ ws points still havent gotten their WS yet =/

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oh whoops forgot laharl has been grinding points since his lvl10 disk and now has the ws with his floor40 disk XD

there are ppl with lower than floor 20 discs who HAVE completed their WS quests. It's a bug, based on what the GM said earlier in this thread.

[Shufflesx]

who are these people because i have yet to see on any forum someone get it below 20.

[Tahngarthor]

read the last several pages.

And besides, if you can't complete the quest as you are, then you shouldn't be able to accept the quest to begin with.

[Edgeworth]

who are these people because i have yet to see on any forum someone get it below 20.

That.

The only post I've seen anywhere that might befrom someone below floor 30 that has the new WS was the post by Valkrish a few pages back, which no one has confirmed.

[Armads]

I can confirm completing quest with floor 20 disc. i may have miscounted because i just stopped counting after 4000 points. Estimated 5500 points to complete with floor 20.

[Tahngarthor]

Even a GM was quoted as asking if the player had gotten 5000 points yet. So you probably miscounted or just didn't check for it at the right time.

[Indalecia]

GM's are idiots and don't know crap about the mechanics of this game. Don't take his word for it.

[hexagram23]

I can confirm completing quest with floor 20 disc. i may have miscounted because i just stopped counting after 4000 points. Estimated 5500 points to complete with floor 20.

Huh? 5500 needed for Floor 20? That's more than was quoted as being needed if you were Floor 0.

[Nickb]

Just hit floor 20, @ 3500ish so gonna test this theory about being on floor 20 a requirement and if your ws points up to then do or don't count, get back to you all soon as I know something


-Nickb

[neithan]

Just got my disc to floor 20. I have around 5400 ws points, going to push another 100 to see if it unlocks.

[Tahngarthor]

GM's are idiots and don't know crap about the mechanics of this game. Don't take his word for it.

As true as this is, why would a GM say something like that if they knew absolutely nothing? They usually dont talk about these things at all.

[Qeomash]

As true as this is, why would a GM say something like that if they knew absolutely nothing? They usually dont talk about these things at all.

I would imagine that they are getting a large number of calls on this, so they have probably gotten some additional info from the higher-ups on what exactly it entails. Does that mean they actually know what is going on? Of course not.

[Altanass]

i dont see why the update notes couldnt have elaborated more on the requirements, i remember a long time ago before cop was complete the update notes would go on and on, nowadays it takes less than 5 minutes to read it all >.>, in any event, the weapons should have counters on them themselves, they have no real other stats so theres plenty of space to have coded a countdown of sorts.

[Ayvaen]

i dont see why the update notes couldnt have elaborated more on the requirements, i remember a long time ago before cop was complete the update notes would go on and on, nowadays it takes less than 5 minutes to read it all >.>, in any event, the weapons should have counters on them themselves, they have no real other stats so theres plenty of space to have coded a countdown of sorts.

I really doubt they could actually make a weapon with that sort of coding. If they NPC would just directly tell us how many we have left to attain that would work just as well for anyone who could count. But square chose to make it vague for a reason.



As for the Nyzul whining, in the end, anyone who wants to excell in multiple 75 jobs has no choice but do Nyzul Isle to finish their weapon skill arsenal. It'd be ridiculous if the Nyzul Runic Key update didn't happen this update, but now climbing to 100 is fairly trivial. It only takes you 20 successful runs and it's pretty rare that you get a run which isn't beatable by a group that is skilled (maybe 5% of the time). In those 20 runs you'll likely get every weapon that your static needs and maybe a few pieces of armor which're decent (or in some cases excellent) for quite a few jobs.

Why're we whining that they're updating old content and giving us a reason to do it?

The only real big thing I can fault SE for is not having the relic key changes be retroactive for all members who climbed in the past; and even that wouldn't have helped. My static for example decided to get Runic Keys for everyone since there was released a purpose for them with last patch. So we've been spending quite a bit of time climbing floors for these past 3 months only to find we would've only had to do it ONCE for everyone instead of the 1-40 track we did 3 times along with farming (now that 1-40 track would be more than enough time to get us all from 1-100).

But that's life. Things get changed, the first people to go through them always put more effort into them than people will later. That's life. Get over it because all of the bitching in the world won't change that.

[Arthars]

its called hidden effect which makes people excited for weeks

and then response you with 30 WS to break latent after emergency update so we will all go:

SE ROCKS!!!

[Shufflesx]

the purpose of a mmorpg is to play in a massive multiplayer world and play a role, create a world of your own. The problem is, SE doesn't want you do to that, they want to force you into what they want you to do.

Why should I do nyzul island, they give ranger and pup complete crap gear, why should I be forced to waste my time climbing floors on an event I want nothing to do with, I should have alternative ways to get ws instead of this. sure it may take time but give alternatives. Allow me to buy my base weapons with campaign points or something since campaign points are completely useless, along with the whole expansion.

All SE seems to do is patch after patch is create larger gaps between the hardcore and casuals which in turn forces the casual players out. And it is the people that constantly defend SE for everything they do are the ones that have causes this game to slowly go to hell. 4 years ago this game was much better, patches were robust, players helped each other, now the majority of players left are just elitist trailer trash that only care about their progress and noone elses.

ok rant over, but this maint decides if I quit or not, games are supposed to be fun, and its funny how one of the first thing the gm tends to type is, "I can understand how this can be frustrating for you,but it is working as intended" sorry but games are not suppossed to be designed to be frustrating.

[safer]

Q_Q

goliard isnt a bad set for pup, especially now that we have more melee gear to choose from (Enkidu/Cobra/Antares/AF2)

body is a great haste piece and hands are a nice mix of accuracy and attack. And the whole set is great for pup/sch'ing

I dont think there is anything wrong with nyzul isle, its a fun event you can do anytime with friends, that doesnt last long...plus you get XP and chances at decent armor/worldly NM drops
hell its only 20 runs to get to 100 ... its not even a chore

[Shufflesx]

Should have seen my run last night.


first almost impossible to get set together because limus, dynamis, salvage, etc etc.

so we did with 4. The sam spent all his time running around looking for nms because he wanted his GK, so we went from 6-8, 6-7, 6-9.

I got pissed off, now set is gone because 2 of the 4 just wanted weapons, forget the fact there maybe a minimum floor and they cant even get their ws.

I just hate how lazy SE has gotten with their job conditions on equip, they just classify the armor eg light armor and say all x jobs can wear light armor, they don't bother to see if that armor has much use for the job. I find rng gets screwed alot on this lately.

If they just added the damn campaign bodies maybe in general i wouldnt be pissed, not sure what their logic is on taking over a year to add the final set piece except to drag their expansion on.

sorry , game use to be great, the expansion has so much potential, but starting to feel like they dont care if the game self destructs or not. except kudos on the level sync but maybe too little too late.

[Seraph]

Many Qs. Why should I have to do anything to get the shit I want?

Have people forgotten just how much crap can potentially come from Nyzul Isle? Really? There is the three armor sets, the nyzul weapons (and weaponskills), random NMs and their drops.

Lets not forget you can also get some moderate exp and money drops from the billlion mobs you kill. This is honestly one of the most entertaining (and sometimes stressful) events in the game for me. Every damn run is different. I can only do things that are the same over and over so many times.

SE seems to assume that 'almost everyone' can make it to Nyzul floor 20, manage to get a weapon drop, and do a bunch of skillchains to get the new weaponskills. 'Almost everyone' can wipe their own ass too. Do you really want to be the exception? >_>



Edit: Shufflesx, the trick for my static was explaining to everyone exactly how Nyzul works now, and getting everyone to agree that setting a few weeks dedicated to getting everyone a Runic Key was absolutely a smart idea. We spend 4 tags a week grinding disks now, and 2-3 tags on farming. We have already gotten a bunch of weapons, but it doesn't do any damn good when everyone is still on floor 1. You have to explain that to people, so they don't think they can just get their weapons and bail. It's in their best interest to stick it out.

Also, sometimes you have to pick what's most important to you. There isn't enough time in the week for most people to do every event anymore. People want more content, and they got it. Choose wisely.