WS Quest

[Vector]

I find it even more funny how the GM has to check fansites to determine if the quest is working as intended.

[Tahngarthor]

I find it even more funny how the GM has to check fansites to determine if the quest is working as intended.

Chances are they dont have detailed data and/or statistics right in front of them for every single feature, quest, ability, bug, glitch etc when someone calls them. In all actuality, it's probably faster than searching their own data sources and just as if not more accurate. ;P

[Pergo]

i don't think this has been posted so far, but one of my jp friends just told me that the jp-wiki says you can only build 500 ws points a day? this is probably disproven because i'm sure some of the floor 80-95 people did their ws points in 1 sitting, but even if 500/day isn't the actual number, perhaps there is a daily cap as to how many ws points you can accumulate?

[rezo]

ok, on the latest 2ch Thread related to mythic WS,
some guy posted a nice neat c# program in its source form, which reads the memory from the game and displays the current WS points earned.

I donno if its proper to post the code here so I won't.
If you guys are interested in that, google "ミシック武器・ＷＳクエのスレ9", get the source, read, check it yourself, compile and run it at your own risks.

according to the record, I have actually earned
8484pts on my Sharp Sword so far,
but still not getting anywhere close to break it.

[Tahngarthor]

ok, on the latest 2ch Thread related to mythic WS,
some guy posted a nice neat c# program in its source form, which reads the memory from the game and displays the current WS points earned.

I donno if its proper to post the code here so I won't.
If you guys are interested in that, google "ミシック武器・ＷＳクエのスレ9", get the source, read, check it yourself, compile and run it at your own risks.

according to the record, I have actually earned
8484pts on my Sharp Sword so far,
but still not getting anywhere close to break it.

humor the GM, and do a file check.

[Phodoce]

Since when did GMs become viable sources of information?

[Shufflesx]

a limit on how many in a day makes sense, would explain the high numbers and nothing considering if 5k its not possible till tomorrow.

Also explain variances.

also would anger me considering that means i have wasted over 2500 in ws points. and not even half way even though over 7k

[Dohorehn]

if the 500 a day thing is true... well, damn. that's all I've got to say. I mean, I hope it's not. *sigh*

[testdummy]

In regards to the Sam ws being harder to do, I have a runic key with floor 100 finished and I know i lost count at some point, but I finished at what i thought was ~160ws points, so I don't think it would require more points just for sam at least.

[rezo]

if the 500 a day thing is true... well, damn. that's all I've got to say. I mean, I hope it's not. *sigh*

there is no limitation on points can be earned per day...
its a lie spread by people who love to see others fraustrating

[Shufflesx]

ya the waste, but would explain all the odd variances and why havent seen anyone on floor 0 with ws yet, because it just wouldnt be possible.

so it still could be 5k which means couldnt get till tomorrow, if all of a sudden this weekend we see alot of people getting their ws then we know its true.

[Dohorehn]

given they haven't already died from the exasperation of spamming skill chains lol

[Pergo]

so i checked the jp wiki... google translation says this:

※ 9 / 11 now 0 7500 ~ 7600 P recorded and mastered the report:> 122 Name: The name is already being used [sage] Date: 2008/09/11 (Thursday) 09:13:46 ID: rl5igrAV
＞記録0ですが　5000P超えても覚えな

[rezo]

Don't trust the japanese wiki for those new, uncertain topics, unless you also keep tracking on related 2ch threads concurrently.

Information on those topics are most likely referenced from 2ch, and often

there are a bunch of bored vippers manipulating and misleading the wiki infomation just for the fun of it.

[Jaybar]

Have the people that got the WS after 250~ points ever talk to the NPC while doing quest?

And those that have done 5k+ WSs, were those solo or all SC? I have a hunch that anyone without Runic Key has to obtain their points via SC maybe (but how can I know, people that say they got WS don't say much else...)

[Dimmauk]

Why do people talk to the NPC before the weaponskill is unlocked? Don't you just spam WS until you get it, then got talk to the NPC?

[sedna]

Have the people that got the WS after 250~ points ever talk to the NPC while doing quest?

And those that have done 5k+ WSs, were those solo or all SC? I have a hunch that anyone without Runic Key has to obtain their points via SC maybe (but how can I know, people that say they got WS don't say much else...)

I know that when I did my count of around 750 points for Tachi: Rana (Floor 85/86), I counted both solo and SC's. Took about 3 hours of spamming SC's with 2 partners + 2 npcs lol. Never left the zone and never spoke to the NPC again before obtaining Rana in my WS menu. So I'd imagine that if no runic key = SC only, then the required point total would be somewhat lower than current expectations, as about 200 of those points were solo (thanks to npcs screwing up SC's etc). Just my experience with it though.

Waiting to unlock RNG and DRG until after getting a runic disc. Will post more observations if at all pertinent to the unlocking process.

[Shufflesx]

mine are all level 3 light with my puppet.

and talking to npc shouldnt matter, just like when you do normal ws quest, they just basically tell you. Too bad they didnt put a counter on the weapon, the annoying part isnt doing this many SC, it is not knowing if you are making progress.

Sometimes I think SE has some sick satisfaction from watching people grind things.

[Vector]

I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I talked to the NPC to try and gauge my progress was because almost all of the initial info regarding points was wrong. At first people said 4,250 for floor 20, then it was 5,000, then 5,500, etc. I tried one last time when I hit 5,511 thinking that maybe he'd give me the third message but all I got was goose egg. Oh well! I'm not going to complain because it was my choice to try it at 20 instead of waiting until I'd scaled higher.

[Alistaire]

Why do people talk to the NPC before the weaponskill is unlocked? Don't you just spam WS until you get it, then got talk to the NPC?

Impatience to see their progress. Definitely ironic if that's what's causing them to never get it.