WS Quest

[Tempyst]

so the only thing i have complained about is too many points for ws.

most people seem to agree the points are too much.

ok, I doubt i will get anywhere, I will only come back if i have more news on points.

you people enjoy yourself.

Shut the fuck up

[jimbobsonofgod]

I've gotten 9 new WS so far. Never once complained about it.

Then again I'd be one of the 3 % and I say kick the 97% and lets have us a party!

[Seraph]

seraph every day this week i have logged on, asked ls members, asked friends to try and get together, I am trying, not sure why you dont think i have. It is all I have been doing.

Either you didn't listen to me, or are trying to bait me at this point. My suggestion was to try to form a pickup group, or go with friends, or do some combination of the two.

"I asked the same people 10 times and they still don't want to go!" wasn't what people meant when they said to try to get some Nyzul progress done. If you are just losing tags at this point, try it with a pickup. What's the worst that could happen? You die a few times, and are no worse off as you were 30 minutes ago. The rage you have for crabs might have even gone away by then too.


Edit: It took me a month of exactly what you are talking about to get a static of people together. Shit takes time, I don't know what else to tell you.

[Dimmauk]

so the only thing i have complained about is too many points for ws.

most people seem to agree the points are too much.

ok, I doubt i will get anywhere, I will only come back if i have more news on points.

you people enjoy yourself.

seraph every day this week i have logged on, asked ls members, asked friends to try and get together, I am trying, not sure why you dont think i have. It is all I have been doing.

Cant be shouting for Nyzul floors when you are doing crab rape for hours. I seriously cant wait for you to get your WS.

[Xno Kappa]

At least we have the actual ability of progression at our own pace. When you look at the overall scope of things getting the weapon skill itself is pretty easy. Once one of my damn weapons finally drop I think I'll have no problems at all unlocking it, and I'm only on the 15th floor. Even better the fact that I can still climb the floors and it'll count towards the total points needed.

Just don't burn yourself out trying to get the new shinies in your weapon skill list on day 1. The majority of them seem to suck anyways so this is really only for completions sake.

[AzazaelFenrir]

woot he played the 'I was sick' card, game over, he wins. Time to go home guys.

[Aselin]

The majority of them seem to suck anyways so this is really only for completness* sake.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you there.

I am really anxious to get Drakesbane because I'd like to see another WS other than Penta Thrust, and I know I'll never get Geirskogul. >_>;

Forming a set isn't bad. I have a set for Nyzul already and we're alternating turns on who to advance in floors. Right now, we're getting one person to 60. Next person is going to take them from 20 to 40 next week. I'm still at Floor 5, so I'm waiting for my turn.

[Daedalus]

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you there.

I am really anxious to get Drakesbane because I'd like to see another WS other than Penta Thrust, and I know I'll never get Geirskogul. >_>;

Forming a set isn't bad. I have a set for Nyzul already and we're alternating turns on who to advance in floors. Right now, we're getting one person to 60. Next person is going to take them from 20 to 40 next week. I'm still at Floor 5, so I'm waiting for my turn.

Why dont you all start from Level 5 and kill 6 birds with one stone? Saves repeating 20-40 twice...

[Aselin]

Why dont you all start from Level 5 and kill 6 birds with one stone? Saves repeating 20-40 twice...

Don't ask... I'm not the set leader ~_~;

Apparently reason why we're doing floors in 20 Floor increments is primarily for gear.

[Thanacus]

Reports found in this thread superimposed on the chart pulled from the JP site:

100 250
95  500
90  625 (680, 680) -- 8.8% off
85  750 (700) -- 6.7% off
80  875 (859, 900, 1111) -- 1.8%, 2.9%, and 27% off
75  1093
70  1312
65  1531
60  1750 (1715) -- 2% off
55  2187 (2250, 2320) -- 2.9%, 6.1% off
50  2625
45  3062 (2625, 2645) -- 14.3%, 13.6% off
40  3500 (2800, 3525, 3521, < 3600--floor jump) -- 20%, 0.7%, 0.6% off
35  4375 (4640) -- 6.1% off
30  5250 (5316, < 5511--floor jump) -- 1.3% off
25  6125 (6103) -- 0.4% off
20  7000 (7045) -- 0.6% off
15  8750 ( > 8596)
10  10500
5   12250 (12000) -- 2% off
0   14000

With the exception of floor 45, and two outliers that I'd write off as human error in counting, it looks like we've got a winner within a ~10% margin of error.

[Tahngarthor]

Isn't it pretty clear that SE wants you to do Nyzul in order to obtain these?

Frankly i'm THANKFUL that they allowed these weapon skills to be earned outside of the use of the completed mythic weapon, unlike the relic weapons. I personally expected that there would be a substantial amount of work involved (though I kind of expected it to be something more interesting then grinding weaponskill points)

and note to above poster. individual levels definitely do count, so i wouldn't count floor 19 as an accurate number for floor 15.

[Edgeworth]

Just got Stringing Pummel, floor 25 disc.

By my count it popped somewhere between 6103 and 6107 points, but was counting by hand (lol360 limitations), so the chart's 6125 for a floor 25 disc seems likely.

Inferno Claws obtained on floor 1
Superior Private Rank

[Thanacus]

and note to above poster. individual levels definitely do count, so i wouldn't count floor 19 as an accurate number for floor 15.

Sorry to sound so skeptical, but the evidence of this is where?

[miokomioko]

Sorry to sound so skeptical, but the evidence of this is where?

Someone had a weapon and no WS, and upon exiting Nyzul early (3 floors up from a multiple of 5) their WS was available. That's the "evidence."

[Thanacus]

Someone had a weapon and no WS, and upon exiting Nyzul early (3 floors up from a multiple of 5) their WS was available. That's the "evidence."

Did they use the weapon during the trip and gain points while doing so? And what were the numbers of this "someone"?

[Tahngarthor]

It would be highly unlikely that you'd earn enough points to account for an almost 5 floor difference in a single nyzul run in 30 minutes.

[Thanacus]

It would be highly unlikely that you'd earn enough points to account for an almost 5 floor difference in a single nyzul run in 30 minutes.

Still need an example to back up the definite claim.

[Tahngarthor]

I agree, but why do you seem to find it so hard to believe that individual floors count, when the game does track your progress to a single floor even if it's not a multiple of 5? (Just talk to the nyzul assault NPC and ask about your progress on a run where you exited early).

[Tahngarthor]

here's the post some of us have been referring

hey guys, I just learned death blossom

and i found something very interesting

I entered 15F with 8596pts, was very sure the WS

was not on the list, i got to 19F, pwned by Physcheflayers

and decided to quit at 19F, when i exited, I found the Ws

was on my list.

So this means the requirement to break the weapon is actually counted by every single floor instead of every 5 floors.

[Thanacus]

here's the post some of us have been referring

The only issue I can see with that is the distance to the theorized 15 point that they were was extremely close (154, to be exact). Given the possibility for error in counting on the way up if this person didn't use the program posted here, then it would be extremely possible for them to be even closer to the value and obtained it during the run.

So honestly, I'd say it could go either way right now. What would be awesome to find though would be someone at say ~6500 points who did 20-24 and got it on exiting floor 24. That way, the value would be too far from the level 20 point total to claim that it was just a "got the points while doing Nyzul" thing.