Stat reduction on high lv gear

[Reality]

somebody check machine crossbow and ziska crossbow delay at those levels, could be a powerful weapon if the delay is the same and not increased

[noodles355]

Osode at 69 gave +3 Stats.
Dusk Trousers at 69 gave +3 Att.
Dusk Trousers at 71 (1lvl under normal) also gave +3 att.
Dusk Trousers at 37 gave +2 Att.

Looks severly gimped. Guess I'll be holding onto my BCNM40/60 cap gear.

[Samuraiking]

Then what was the point of even offering it, if nobody in their right mind would use it due to ridiculously gimp stats? Better off not even creating scale down if they were going to make it so shitty. Waste of time etc...

The whole point was to level with ur friends(while being gimp) that are lower than u, and not buying new gear. Though even knowing this im still sad at how bad they gimped it, i knew it wud be bad, but +3 osode stats at 70?... ugh.

[Sanjiyan]

Yep, hard capped stats. The easy way out.

Why SE would think capping a slot to +3 or +2 of any stat, even at high levels, is useful is beyond me.

[FailureMidgard]

Lv 40 mnk
Attack with no hands:201, attack with Bkote: 204
No black belt: STR 40+6, black belt: 40+7
Forager's Mantle: no back piece: 200 attack 40+5 str With mantle: 201 attack 40+6 str


Conclusions, keep lv capped gear this shit is gimped.

Lvl 40 forager's is pretty hot tbh.

[drwaffles]

It was never supposed to make high level gear good for low levels. They freaking said the gear would be worse than the proper gear for the level.

They did it exactly as it should have been.

I didn't say they didn't deliver what was advertised, I was simply reiterating what I thought of the implementation ever since they first released those examples of scaling. Of course scaled gear shouldn't be better than "real" gear, but having shit not give any stat boosts whatsoever aside from defense is really quite underwhelming.

[Faithe]

eh some of the stats isn't THAT horrible at those levels. Are there better choices? Yes, but you can live with osode giving +2 to everything at level 50ish.

[Pindle]

50 Smn

Yinyang Robe
Def: 24 MP +10


BP delay effects are canceled in 50 cap (YYR, Nashira hands, Evoker Ring, AF+1 feet, Auster's Staff). In light of this, I would assume that the HQ staves would have pretty much no effect on spells, but I, or someone else, would have to test that.

):

Errant Hpl. only gives Int/Mnd/Chr +1 too.

[Kayos]

The whole point was to level with ur friends(while being gimp) that are lower than u, and not buying new gear. Though even knowing this im still sad at how bad they gimped it, i knew it wud be bad, but +3 osode stats at 70?... ugh.

I understand that. Personally I would rather the devs not have wasted time on it and spend time on other ffxi stuff, then put forth such a mediocre product.

[Antithesis]

The whole point was to level with ur friends(while being gimp) that are lower than u, and not buying new gear. Though even knowing this im still sad at how bad they gimped it, i knew it wud be bad, but +3 osode stats at 70?... ugh.

I'll give SE credit with allowing me to lowering my level to party with my friends.

But thats all Im giving them. The way they reduced the stats is really just mediocre.

[Katlan]

surprised so many ppl figured the stat reduced gear would be equal or better than the lv appropriate gear... it's just an easy/cheap/fast way to help ppl if needed (while looking better than if you had lowbie gear). [for ex...] If your friend needs you to run into Sanctum to help farm subligars (sp), just mule a weapon and go at it... you don't need good gear for that..

I agree, I wish this new system worked like they described... but knew it was too good to be true -.-

[Grieverao]

LVL57

Walahra Turban gave +10 HP but +30MP

[Reality]

thought it was stated someplace that you can't level sync for level cap areas

[Antithesis]

LVL57

Walahra Turban gave +10 HP but +30MP

O_o

[Rajah]

As a side note, activating level sync with brandson's gui/font = crash

[noodles355]

If the synced gear stays at +3 as a cap, then it sucks and is pointless. It provides nothing but an alternative to being naked in capped areas.

They expect this crap to encourage Lvl syncing in exp parties? If I sync myself for your party, my gear will be severly gimped meaning I'll need some lvl cap stuff just to EXP if I want to do a decent amount of damage.

Can't wait to see testing on ele staves though still.

[Alistaire]

Someone just said adaberk gave 3 str @ 65.

[Alistaire]

Can't wait to see testing on ele staves though still.

Elemental staves' abilities would count under special abilities and be completely removed.

[Cream Soda]

eh some of the stats isn't THAT horrible at those levels. Are there better choices? Yes, but you can live with osode giving +2 to everything at level 50ish.

lv 40: Okote +20 attack
lv 40: Bkote +3 attack

I'd have to say its THAT horrible

[Genzai Kawakami]

Drg 75 -> 20

Ares Cuirass gave 15 Def and... nothing else.
Love torque gave nothing (not even 1 dex <_< com'on, spike necklace is just one level higher for 3 dex)
But Thalassocrat gave Hp+8 Dex+1 Vit+1 (I haven't been able to test Dmg because my friend lvl 20 d/ced <3)

'seems some stuff could be good at caped level.. just have to find which <_<,