Commodore Tricorne Augment Tests

[Thistle]

Want want want want want want want want want want want want!

[Aux]

<- has no relevant COR experience.
So wait, let me get this straight. Having a Commodore's Tricorne means, whatever you roll other than a bust, it's the effect of rolling a +11 each time?

If this is so then it makes COR AF super worthwhile..

[Seyrr]

<- has no relevant COR experience.
So wait, let me get this straight. Having a Commodore's Tricorne means, whatever you roll other than a bust, it's the effect of rolling a +11 each time?

If this is so then it makes COR AF super worthwhile..

Nope, that's not what it means at all.

For all COR rolls, if you have someone of that job in the party, the result is stronger. For instance, having a THF in party increases the crit rate boost of Rogue's Roll by 6% (whatever the roll actually was.) That increase is the same no matter what you roll.

Wearing that hat means that you're considered as having all jobs in your party, so you always get the boost to your rolls.

[Mikayla]

I figured that this would be what the Augments Rolls thing did, but omg do want.

[Starr]

now I have to hope for COR AND RDM hats on Xarc runs. *fap fap fap*

Join the club, but I'm gonna go for RDM first

[Auspice]

Also interested in seeing what effect the frac has on Random Deal, if anyone reading this has it.

Same. I doubt SE would undermine Loaded Deck merits so maybe it will allow multiple JAs to be reset?

[Callisto]

Same. I doubt SE would undermine Loaded Deck merits so maybe it will allow multiple JAs to be reset?

^
boner'd

[Spekkio]

one was in the dorp thread last night, so i'm hoping we'll see some tests today. it wouldn't be bad if it would just weight it towards the higher recast JAs or something, like encouraging it to reset meditate rather than hasso, or perhaps giving random deal the chance to reset itself. the latter sounds potentially very powerful, but since it's unreliable like wild card, it wouldn't be broken. regardless, if it lives up even remotely to the standard the tricorn has set, yesterday will have been a very bright day for corsairs everywhere.

[Kirbyprime]

Maybe the AF2 Body will make full Party Quickdraw nukage possible... who wants to see a full party of COR do Quickdraws!

[Callisto]

That would mean 5 other CORs to gank my AF2/AF+1, fuck that noise.

[Spekkio]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55481
this was actually talked about well before af2 or even the merit cap upgrade. i'm not sure if our numbers and data on quickdraw were right, so i'm not gonna back these figures, but it should at least give you an idea of the practicality of it. there are also a couple more MAB items out there (such as the solitare cape) that might slightly up the per shot numbers, so i know for a fact those are out of date. regardless, it sounds really cool if you could somehow figure a way to keep hate off the corsairs as they fire since going through all those shots (at about 100 shots per corsair) figuring about 2s delay between shots and ignoring random deal/wild card, that's several minutes of time firing all the while mounting CE and VE to terribly high numbers.

[Kirbyprime]

The problem with this previously was that Random Deal even with Merits wouldn't translate to 100% full restore. I would say through guestimates solo that with 1 merit, I could restore it around 70?% of the time. But that's only for myself, I have no idea if the % is lower when used on other people.

Depending on what the AF2 body does, it might either restore 2+ abilities (doesn't really hep) or if it adds another layer onto Loaded Deck, it might make it worthwhile... given that there's even COR on a server to do it.

[Callisto]

there are also a couple more MAB items out there (such as the solitare cape) that might slightly up the per shot numbers

COR can't use that, though there were a couple of other items added with a set bonus of MAB yesterday. Some of them may be of value seeing as how a good QD set is appearing to also be the best option for Leaden Salute.

[Spekkio]

COR can't use that, though there were a couple of other items added with a set bonus of MAB yesterday. Some of them may be of value seeing as how a good QD set is appearing to also be the best option for Leaden Salute.

well played, my friend... well played... indeed i didn't look hard enough at the solitare cape (though there is a cape w/ 1 mab in the latest update but i dunno if cor can use that, not that 1 mab is much anyway) regardless, my math in the prior thread assumed a recovery rate of only 70% on random deals and 100% on wild cards since the one thing wild card WILL do 100% of the time is to reset all non-2hr JA. someone also talked about having fold up and by virtue of having 2 JA on recast and loaded deck having a preference for lower recast JA (this is just what someone else claimed, don't shoot me if the info is wrong) if you have say, fold on a 15 minute recast, random deal should aim for quick draw rather consistently.

[Kirbyprime]

Hummm, it does favor lower CD things more often than not, but there's still a fairly high chance that it'll recharge fold. I'd say 20?% or so. Not that high and rarely matters, but for something like a grand-scale QD spamfest, 20% would be way more annoying to deal with.

[Atreides]

the MAB items added for COR yesterday were

-Caloyer cape gives 1 MAB outside campaign, which in a full QD set would replace 2-3 agi, making it worthwhile if you actually had the time to get it.

Nimue's Tights give 4 MAB, but that would mean giving up Denali Kecks. 1 MAB would be a slight increase, but IMO it wouldn't be worth it at the cost of 3AGI and 3MAcc.

Murderer/supremacy earring combo. The Murderer has 4 less base damage than a corsair's gun +1, and takes up an earring slot so assuming you have novio/moldy you lose 5 MAB there. The set bonus would have to be pretty hefty to outweigh giving those things up, but I suppose if you didn't have both novio/moldy it might make sense. I guess it's situational as well. Depending on the QD enhancement, obviously Death Penalty seems like the best choice.

In a semi-related note I noticed that without Loaded Deck, my random deals seem to NEVER restore QD, often missing entirely or restoring PR (about 50% of the time). I'd be interested to see testing on the AF2 body to see what it does.

[Maxxthepenguin]

<Drks> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo OOooOOoo

[Davricle]

We got a Commodore's Tricorne last night (lost lot by like 80 ). The guy who did get it was doing testing as soon as he was back in whitegate. Apparently its is not GUARANTEED to give the bonus without the person in the party, it was only a chance. Unless he messed up his math, we only got the Chaos Roll bonus about 2/8 times. Got evokers roll bonus 2/5 times. Could be wrong, but thats what he was reporting.

[Kirbyprime]

Damn =/ That would suck... well not suck, but way less "OMG AWESOME" then before...

[Falisa]

well played, my friend... well played... indeed i didn't look hard enough at the solitare cape (though there is a cape w/ 1 mab in the latest update but i dunno if cor can use that, not that 1 mab is much anyway)

Who knows. 1 mab might be nice for COR because the only other option we get for a back piece (realistically) is 2 agi. 1 mab vs 2 agi.