New WS Properties/Modifier/Damage Testing

[Starr]

I suggest you do much more to be conclusive

[Zytar]

I suggest you do much more to be conclusive

the other stats will have to wait till the weekend when i have more time to screw around with it.

[Nattack]

I think. rather, i'm pretty sure he means to take a larger sample.

[eva00r]

You need to get more than +2 str, +2 dex cause your samples really doesn't tell us anything. +20 str and +20 dex is my suggestion.

[Kikaru]

have mandalic stab and omw to ronfaure to get the numbers you guys need, how does 30 each ws naked, and also with 20 dex, then 20 str sound --'. I want my modifiers!

[Kikaru]

Just finished the +20 mod tests, used e.ronfaure rabbits randomly cause there were actually quite a few lowbies in west. Anyways 61 str 75 dex naked, 61+20 str, 75+20 dex.

Naked STR DEX
106 136 166
140 139 115
131 122 135
113 131 122
126 133 164
128 107 151
160 101 141
94 141 142
102 126 163
116 98 139
118 102 137
133 99 113
108 98 164
105 126 128
119 130 166
137 113 169
135 123 135
125 103 130
142 105 154
136 100 142

[eva00r]

Just finished the +20 mod tests, used e.ronfaure rabbits randomly cause there were actually quite a few lowbies in west. Anyways 61 str 75 dex naked, 61+20 str, 75+20 dex.

Naked STR DEX
106 136 166
140 139 115
131 122 135
113 131 122
126 133 164
128 107 151
160 101 141
94 141 142
102 126 163
116 98 139
118 102 137
133 99 113
108 98 164
105 126 128
119 130 166
137 113 169
135 123 135
125 103 130
142 105 154
136 100 142

Mandalic Stab appears to have DEX based modifer, STR doesn't really matter within these 60 samples. It seems to be around DEX_50% but I'm still not sure about the exact amount.

Edit : Studio Gobli reports Mandalic Stab has 1.0 fTP @100% and STR_30% and DEX_50% modifier. However the STR mod contradicts with what you tested.

[Lordwafik]

You sure it's not just sneak attack DEX bonus working there? You're better off testing it with TA if it's a dex mod.

[eva00r]

You sure it's not just sneak attack DEX bonus working there? You're better off testing it with TA if it's a dex mod.

No if he used SA, the numbers would be around ~300 at least.

[VZX]

Gobli reported STR_30% DEX_50% for Mandalic Stab

[Zytar]

You need to get more than +2 str, +2 dex cause your samples really doesn't tell us anything. +20 str and +20 dex is my suggestion.

Thanks for the heads up, i'll keep that in mind next time.

[Starr]

What is Mandalic Stab's ftp? Shit seems weak.

[Nameless]

I don't know where I should post this under since I don't really know the meaning of it knowing only some japenese. But if you read the post 294 and beyond. It talks about souleater and some special trait. I am not sure if they are talking about the souleater nerf from AV or the new ws triggering some sort of souleater special effect. Please help if you can read japanese. Thank you.

http://changi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1221226943/

The texts which I was talking about are:

暗黒の特殊効果ダメージアップ発見

[Phryn]

So i was using Tachi: Rana last night in Dynamis-Xarcabard on Sam/Drg and was doing some comparative tests between Onimaru and Hagun. Even with full TP returns the Hagun was much more consistent in damage and more damage overall, not only that, 100TP and 200TP returns were practically identical, any ideas? Hagun was doing a consistent mid 300 damage and Onimaru was giving me 200's with the occasional 300 (with full TP return). And yeah, from what i saw last night Y/G/K still rock as they were doing a consistent 400-500 damage more than Rana.

So i saw some posts saying that people are retarded thinking Hagun does more damage than Onimaru on Rana, anybody out there had results different than mine?

[Alistaire]

So i was using Tachi: Rana last night in Dynamis-Xarcabard on Sam/Drg and was doing some comparative tests between Onimaru and Hagun. Even with full TP returns the Hagun was much more consistent in damage and more damage overall, not only that, 100TP and 200TP returns were practically identical, any ideas? Hagun was doing a consistent mid 300 damage and Onimaru was giving me 200's with the occasional 300 (with full TP return). And yeah, from what i saw last night Y/G/K still rock as they were doing a consistent 400-500 damage more than Rana.

So i saw some posts saying that people are retarded thinking Hagun does more damage than Onimaru on Rana, anybody out there had results different than mine?

It's been shown Rana has a mistranslation, it's Accuracy varies by TP not damage. That's why 100TP and 200Tp were the same and why people are saying "that people are retarded thinking Hagun > Onimaru on Rana" because the TP boost won't add damage, except in the case of lost damage due to a missed hit.

[jibini]

When I did the test on level 0 bunnies, my results consistently fell into the same range no matter my TP, which suggests a consistent fTP value.

What it wouldn't account for would be SE doing something funny like giving a boost to attack itself, dependent on how much TP you have.

Considering what else they've done with the new WS, and YGK's funny attack boost, it wouldn't be hugely surprising.

[benny]

That's an interesting 2ch thread. Unless I fail terribly, it looks like they believe Elemental Seal will increase the BLM WS damage... can anyone test or confirm that?

[Nameless]

Did you read the part about drk? I don't know what they were talking about Souleater.

[Izzy]

So i was using Tachi: Rana last night in Dynamis-Xarcabard

Yea and my screen flashed purple every 30 seconds...god I hate that WS Q_Q

[benny]

Did you read the part about drk? I don't know what they were talking about Souleater.

I'm working my way down but I'm no Elmer, and I don't have my dictionaries here at work, so most of it is gibberish to me... sorry :/