JoL

[Vyerz]

I know that there was a similar post to this a while back, but I'm pretty sure it was on the old forums.
Anyways....

My LS is doing its first Jailer of Love this coming Sunday. I know that he's become something near a joke after this last update, but I have a few questions..

1. How far (Distance.dll wise) should the tanks be standing from JoL?
2. How important is having a Magic Defense setup for the tanks? Needed / Not needed?
3. What spells should a Pld/rdm and a Rdm/nin be rotating while tanking?

Answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
As always thanks for your time~

[Commskywalker]

Dispel, sleep, blind.. all the usual high hate spells that a RDM has. We've never had RDMs sub nin, not with high MDB and stoneskin, there are better subs. Find a balance between enmity and MDB/-magic, whatever works for your tanks.

[Judai]

1. Far enough that they don't get hit by TP moves or Drawn-in. idk exact since I don't play on comp.

2. Pretty important imo. Sure you can tank w/o it but why would you. The few times we've had a tank try they sucked a ton of MP and didn't hold hate that well.

3. They should know... or they prolly shouldn't be tanking. Any spells really. Dispel, Bind, Sleep, Blind, etcetc. Try to keep Stoneskin up and can try to Blink out T4s if you cast fast enough.

[ad3285]

I know that there was a similar post to this a while back, but I'm pretty sure it was on the old forums.
Anyways....

My LS is doing its first Jailer of Love this coming Sunday. I know that he's become something near a joke after this last update, but I have a few questions..

1. How far (Distance.dll wise) should the tanks be standing from JoL?
2. How important is having a Magic Defense setup for the tanks? Needed / Not needed?
3. What spells should a Pld/rdm and a Rdm/nin be rotating while tanking?

Answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
As always thanks for your time~

1. if i remember correctly, 13.5". When u got more than that, u get draw in immediately if u have hate.

2. i tanked with RDM/NIN. For me i didn't focus on any MDB or Enmity gears.
When JoL change element, just bar<elemental> yourself before u eat any -ga spells which is long enough time for u to react.
Keep Shell V if not Shell IV up at all time and it shldn't pose any problems.

3. I kept hate using Dispel only. PLD seems to only use Flash to keep hate on.
Another trick i learnt from my fellow PLD is to equip +HP gears and CureIV urself for the hate.
With access to a few pieces of Convert HP->MP gears, i just equipped all of them to push my max. HP to lowest then equipped all +HP gears to reach max. HP to the highest and cure IV myself for some nice hate

[Tsuko_Asura]

1. if i remember correctly, 13.5". When u got more than that, u get draw in immediately if u have hate.
2. i tanked with RDM/NIN. For me i didn't focus on any MDB or Enmity gears. When JoL change element, just bar<elemental> yourself before u eat any -ga spells. Long enough time for u to react. Keep Shell V if not Shell IV up at all time and it shldn't pose any problems.
3. I kept hate using Dispel only. PLD only have access to Flash to keep hate on.
Just recast utsusemi first and Cure4 urself to get hate back. Communicate this to the WHM to cureV u only when u hit red.

I more or less did everything I could possibly do wrong other than standing inside of melee range. We managed though, so meh, here's my strategy.

[Thorny]

I more or less did everything I could possibly do wrong other than standing inside of melee range. We managed though, so meh, here's my strategy.

For once, I agree with tsuko. You should definitely bother with MDB gear, and sleep2 is far more efficient hate/mp used than cures will ever be. Blind and bind are also good to use, you still need to keep your VE up after you cap CE.

[Kaiyoko]

Could a NIN/RDM tank JoL or would NIN/DRK be better? My ls doesn't have any solid PLDs right now that I think could tank it lol.

Edit- I have RDM too so would that be better then NIN?

[Chupunpupun]

Could a NIN/RDM tank JoL or would NIN/DRK be better? My ls doesn't have any solid PLDs right now that I think could tank it lol.

Edit- I have RDM too so would that be better then NIN?

NIN/rdm/drk/blu/etc and RDM/NIN can do it. As long as you are out of melee range and can hold hate the fight is a breeze. The only damage you'll take is from -aga3s and maybe 3xWS (rarely) from the pets. I recommend magic damage down gears.

Even if the tanks die, as long as the person with hate stands out of range, he can hold JOL.

[Tricen]

Don't let this happen to you.

[Hyriu]

How do you wipe to JoL


edit: o Tricen, nvm

<3

[tommygunnz]

How do you wipe to JoL


edit: o Tricen, nvm

<3

6 sinuate rushes

Who said anything about a wipe?

[Tricen]

We came back and killed it lol. Torq novia :/

[Aesctaa]

1) not sure, dont play on PC, but if you get charmed you were too close.
2) not 100% essential but helps a lot. Nothing should 1shot anyone with over 1k HP, but a combination of astral flow and a spell in conjunction can kill a tank (saving sentinel and rampart for when adds pop works nice if your add taggers are slow). tank tank BRD RDM WHM WHM as tank party works nicely, can cut it down as you see fit.
3) sleep, blind, bind, dispel, flash, cures, the usual. just 2 of those is enough after you have hate capped. Dont sit there spamming your HP up fake cure IV macro if you are at capped hate, wont be doing much, and a waste of MP.

Its so easy after the update, 15-20min kill with dual boxed healer, no melee, 1.5 BLM PTs as only dmg. I'm sure 5min or at least sub 10min is possible.

[Hyriu]

6 sinuate rushes

Who said anything about a wipe?

Me and Tricen made babies once, so it was a joke

[Tricen]

Hyriu is like, totally my BF4E

[Duber]

Don't let this happen to you.

Finally I find someone who had the same weird move ! but in our case was Aerial Collision x6 <3

Pretty bad luck, we change position anyway to prevent it and never happened again.

[Tricen]

Finally I find someone who had the same weird move ! but in our case was Aerial Collision x6 <3

Pretty bad luck, we change position anyway to prevent it and never happened again.

Tanking JoL is so easy on rdm. Until you get Aerial Collisionedx3. Now I just haste people and stuff :/

[Linktri]

JOL was a joke even before the patch. We had someone (who shall remain nameless) CFH entirely on accident twice on the same fight and we still recovered and won. Just keep the tanks at range so they don't get drawn in, have an SC for the correct element matching the day with a MB to match it as well. Then, just have BLMs ga the pets. Watch for element resistance changes.

[Kaylia]

How do you wipe to JoL


edit: o Tricen, nvm

<3

BLM1: man, this is boring, afk
BLM2: brb
BLM3: phone

[Tricen]

Well, we only had 3BLMs I think total. And I think they were weakened or too chicken shit to kill Hpmemdes since sinuate rush wins games.