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    Very good episode.

    I wonder how long it will be until Walter reveals more about the observers...he obviously knows a lot already, but isn't talking.

    I'd like to know more about how they 'observe all time' without constraints in our linear system of time, or if the water in the tube was all the explanation we'll get.

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    Amazing episode.

    I'd be willing to bet (assuming "the war" will be brought on by Walter stealing the other Peter) that the original Observer was trying to prevent the war by saving Walter and Peter in the frozen lake. I'm guessing Walter would have lived and Peter would have died which would have just sped up his decision to steal other Peter.

    Also, I'm wondering how the guy that was trying to steal the cylinder in season 1 is connected to the Observers seeing as they have the same technology (that crazy gun).

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    Goddamn that was the best episode of the year. A spin-off on the Observers would be epic.

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    i suspected from the trailer last week the reason why the observer saved the girl, kinda lame that it came true

    still an awesome episode nonetheless

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    Awesome episode last night. I wonder who the Observers were talking about at the end? Olivia or her niece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Awesome episode last night. I wonder who the Observers were talking about at the end? Olivia or her niece.
    I'm guessing Olivia since she went to the other universe and seems to be very important due to her slowly developing abilities.

    Great episode this week, seems like we are getting closer and closer to this "war" I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamicles View Post
    Very good episode.

    I wonder how long it will be until Walter reveals more about the observers...he obviously knows a lot already, but isn't talking.

    I'd like to know more about how they 'observe all time' without constraints in our linear system of time, or if the water in the tube was all the explanation we'll get.
    I suspect Walter's silence is part of his agreement with the Observer we're most familiar with in exchange for a similar silence about Peter. The other Observers would likely see Peter the same way they saw the girl and take the same measures. Walter isn't likely to share anything.

    I had thought that the Observer saving Walter and Peter was just a rare moment of compassion, but after what he said about them interfering to correct their own mistakes, I wonder if he or another of his kind might not have cause the accident in the first place, accidentally or purposefully, and his rescue was just one of these corrections.

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    Has the show confirmed how World A Peter died, or is it just inferred that it's from the sickness that Walter has referenced a few times? My memory is pretty shoddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Has the show confirmed how World A Peter died, or is it just inferred that it's from the sickness that Walter has referenced a few times? My memory is pretty shoddy.
    They've never even confirmed that he died, let alone how. There was an episode where Walter talks to Peter about when his sickness got to it's worst and I think he admits he did something drastic about it, so yeah, I've always thought that was what killed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe View Post
    They've never even confirmed that he died, let alone how. There was an episode where Walter talks to Peter about when his sickness got to it's worst and I think he admits he did something drastic about it, so yeah, I've always thought that was what killed him.
    At the end of the last season, Walter was standing in front of his son's tombstone so its pretty confirmed.

    it does raise the question that perhaps the Observer caused Walter's car crash and that only Walter, and not Peter, survived. Perhaps that was why the Observer helped him 'correct' this event by aiding with the Peter abduction from the other universe.

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    Walter's car crash occurred *right* around the time Peter was ill, so my guess is that it's an identical situation when Olivia came back from the other universe- that momentum is something that has to be maintained.

    Walter (from universe A) had probably just abducted Universe B's Peter and in the process of coming back to our universe ended up crashing into the frozen lake.

    Otherwise the Observer has no real motive to be at the scene of the accident at the time. A situation like Dunham returning to our universe would make it into a fringe event.

    So basically I'm guessing Peter A gets sick/dies -> Walter A abducts Peter B -> in returning to Universe A, Walter A/Peter B crash into the lake -> Observer saves Walter A/Peter B. At least, that's my theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    At the end of the last season, Walter was standing in front of his son's tombstone so its pretty confirmed.

    it does raise the question that perhaps the Observer caused Walter's car crash and that only Walter, and not Peter, survived. Perhaps that was why the Observer helped him 'correct' this event by aiding with the Peter abduction from the other universe.
    Oh right, my mistake. I always forget that scene because the finale was so exciting with it's twists and revelations and that scene was just a boring confirmation of what we already knew.

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    yknow, on second thought it'd make a lot of sense if Walter/Peter's car "accident" was planned by the Observers as a way of "correcting" Walter A's abduction of Peter B as a way of getting around Peter's death. Walter obviously made some sort of arrangement with the Observer to spare Peter's life, so maybe that's why Observer saved them.

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    Can you believe this show would even be considered for cancellation?? Damn, that would prolly piss me off almost as much as when they canceled T:SCC.

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    well, Kings got cancelled, so there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null View Post
    Can you believe this show would even be considered for cancellation?? Damn, that would prolly piss me off almost as much as when they canceled T:SCC.

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    This show is amazing, more people should be watching it. I have yet to get any of my friends into it though. It better not be canceled. =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null View Post
    Can you believe this show would even be considered for cancellation?? Damn, that would prolly piss me off almost as much as when they canceled T:SCC.

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    Gdi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
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    This show is amazing, more people should be watching it. I have yet to get any of my friends into it though. It better not be canceled. =(
    Needs a better timeslot imo.....need to be on after House on Monday nights it would get them more viewers....i don't know who watches Lie To Me.. =\
    and I doubt Fringe will be cancel it such an amazing show

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    Shitty timeslot is shitty, doubt it gets canned though. It's way too fucking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko View Post
    Needs a better timeslot imo.....need to be on after House on Monday nights it would get them more viewers....i don't know who watches Lie To Me.. =\
    and I doubt Fringe will be cancel it such an amazing show
    Lit to Me is an excellent show.

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