CSI + Prison Break + X-Files = FRINGE

[Dimmauk]

Yeah it seems like she will be able to manifest them to get out. I would say maybe halfway through the season is when it will happen.

Doesnt Olivia's power become stronger when she is scared?

[Kumbai]

The one bit which didn't make sense to me what how Fake Olivia could open the door... I thought the whole point of it was that Olivia needed to open it, using Williams atomic energy, then the "door stop" thing would allow them to pass through.

I'm assuming cause Walternate never met William that the cortexiphan trials never occured.

[Suit and Tie]

The one bit which didn't make sense to me what how Fake Olivia could open the door... I thought the whole point of it was that Olivia needed to open it, using Williams atomic energy, then the "door stop" thing would allow them to pass through.

I'm assuming cause Walternate never met William that the cortexiphan trials never occured.

I thought the exact same thing.

[Meph]

it was all bell

[Deftscythe]

Read up on the effects of solitary confinement.

Right, prolonged confinement. That scene would make sense at the beginning of next season, not now when she's only been in there a couple of days at most.

[Rhyis.]

I love this show.


As others have said, the twist was obvious, but who cares when it's done so well. John Noble truly showed his acting chops in this episode.

[Eggroll]

My guess is Walternate is going to use Olivia to cross back into the other world, since we know that his world hasn't developed a method to switch between universes, and he needs Peter to activate that machine.

[GRT]

Right, prolonged confinement. That scene would make sense at the beginning of next season, not now when she's only been in there a couple of days at most.

Not that I had any personal experience, but even mere hours of solitary confinement supposedly can have extraordinary effects. Granted an FBI agent should probably be more tough mentally than the average Joe, or at least have some kind of training. But I think you are underestimating what being locked in a dark box can do to your psyche.

[Rhyis.]

I was locked in a chest when I was kid for a few hours. It's not fun.

[Furtwangler]

My guess is Walternate is going to use Olivia to cross back into the other world, since we know that his world hasn't developed a method to switch between universes, and he needs Peter to activate that machine.

The question is then, how did they get peter in the first place?

[Null]

They had people in both worlds. It was a huge part of the season with many episodes explaining it.

[Eggroll]

The question is then, how did they get peter in the first place?

I believe Bell and Walter said there was already a crack from when they entered because of Olivia's powers, and the machine along with Bell gave them enough energy to cross back over. Might be in my head though.

[Atreides]

I think he's saying that if Walternate didn't have the ability to cross between worlds, he wouldn't have been able to come get Peter (on the bridge, I assume that was him) and cross back in the Northwest Passage Motel. However, if humans can cross over freely like that, they really haven't explained why the shapeshifters are even necessary, maybe they're a holdover from when humans couldn't cross safely.

Anyway I bet Otherlivia will get found out by Peter, since the 2 Olivias had that conversation in her apartment and Olivia denied that she and Peter are a couple, but then just a few minutes later Olivia had that whole "we belong together" conversation with Peter, so my guess is Otherlivia will slip up there somehow. Then maybe they'll bring her back, Walter had that window to look into the other world so maybe they'll be able to locate Olivia and do something to open a door for her when they discover she's missing.

They semi-introduced that Fringe command center in our universe in the first half of the season finale, I wonder if that will be used in Season 3. There was that FBI room with all the monitors back in Season 1 that just kinda stopped being used, I guess if they're ramping up for Season 3 to be more about an escalation in the conflict between the 2 worlds a command center type atmosphere might become necessary.

[Baelorn]

I think he's saying that if Walternate didn't have the ability to cross between worlds, he wouldn't have been able to come get Peter (on the bridge, I assume that was him) and cross back in the Northwest Passage Motel. However, if humans can cross over freely like that, they really haven't explained why the shapeshifters are even necessary, maybe they're a holdover from when humans couldn't cross safely.

Not sure why so many people have trouble understanding this. Walternate's method of crossing over requires agents in each world which is why the shape shifters must be sent over first to position the devices in this world.

[Amiricle]

I believe Bell and Walter said there was already a crack from when they entered because of Olivia's powers, and the machine along with Bell gave them enough energy to cross back over. Might be in my head though.

Thats correct. Bell likened it as her basically having left a doorstop there holding the way slightly ajar. Just needed the particle thingy and a ton o power to force it the rest of the way back open.

[Gryffes]

I heard it as though she "could" open a crack, that they could then use the machine to further open, not that she had left a crack open.

[Baelorn]

I heard it as though she "could" open a crack, that they could then use the machine to further open, not that she had left a crack open.

She left a crack open which is why they had to go back to the same place. If they could have gone anywhere Walternate would have had a much harder time finding them(as far as they knew).

[Gryffes]

She left a crack open which is why they had to go back to the same place. If they could have gone anywhere Walternate would have had a much harder time finding them(as far as they knew).

Please don't try and justify the plot hole with random text.

Either provide proof or gtfo - there is the whole weakened space blahblah stuff which is why they used that location.

/sigh @ myself for even bothering to reply about something like this.

[Amiricle]

I think he's saying that if Walternate didn't have the ability to cross between worlds, he wouldn't have been able to come get Peter (on the bridge, I assume that was him) and cross back in the Northwest Passage Motel. However, if humans can cross over freely like that, they really haven't explained why the shapeshifters are even necessary, maybe they're a holdover from when humans couldn't cross safely.

They didnt until recently. Walternates only way of getting humans across is to have agents in both universes positioning devices in the same spot, as well as precise perfect timing to when both universes synch up. Explained by the dude in Massive Dynamic with the metronome thingys.

[Baelorn]

Please don't try and justify the plot hole with random text.

Either provide proof or gtfo - there is the whole weakened space blahblah stuff which is why they used that location.

/sigh @ myself for even bothering to reply about something like this.

I'm not sure where you see a plot hole or what you need proof of...Everything is explained in the dialogue and makes sense within the rules of the show.